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Old 09-30-2012, 08:40 PM   #1
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I love a good creamy rocky head. so I have been adding a pound of carapills to every batch. I figure because it does not greatly effect SRM of gravity why not. anyone have any reason that this ccouuld be detrimental to my beer??

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Old 09-30-2012, 09:16 PM   #2
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It also adds body and may add too much body.

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Old 09-30-2012, 09:19 PM   #3
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Not detrimental but not always needed.

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Old 09-30-2012, 09:28 PM   #4
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1 pound seems like a lot of carapils. If you're adding any crystal malts, you get the same effect from those on head retention and body. My understanding is that carapils is basically crystal 1L or 2L. Also that much carapils is adding a lot of unfermentables so you might have trouble getting your FG down to where you want it. But, that being said, if you've been doing it and you like the results then I don't see any reason to change it.

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I love a good creamy rocky head. so I have been adding a pound of carapills to every batch. I figure because it does not greatly effect SRM of gravity why not. anyone have any reason that this ccouuld be detrimental to my beer??
No problem but I agree with peterj that a full pound sounds alike a lot, assuming a five gallon recipe that may also have other crystal malt(s). I use dextrin malt often, my choice being Weyermann Carafoam, and 3-5% is my typical addition. That probably translates to 1/4-1/2 lb for a five gallon brew.
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:51 PM   #6
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beersmith has carapils potential at 1.033/lb and standard us 2 row at 1.036/lb so i wouldnt say it doesnt add any fermentables, cant say that this information is gospel but i assume they know more than me.....just some food for thought....

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Old 10-01-2012, 01:16 AM   #7
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Thanks for the advice, ill try cutting back to a 1/2 or quarter pound and step up my base malt to fill in the O.G. i have had trouble in the past with getting my F.G. low enough this is probebly why because im defently pitching enough yeast and oxigenizing my wort well

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Old 10-01-2012, 12:50 PM   #8
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The points that a grain will add to OG is definitely not the same thing as adding fermentables. OG is just a measure of how much "stuff" is in suspension. It really doesn't tell you anything about how fermentable that "stuff" is. eg. you could have 2 beers with the same OG and same yeast and end with dramatically different FG .


And that is what carapils does. It bumps up the OG with a mix of fermentable and unfermentable sugar. Those unfermentable sugars are going to make their way into your finished beer and will bump up FG and increase the body/mouthfeel.

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Old 10-01-2012, 06:56 PM   #9
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I've had good success using flaked barley/wheat in relation to head and head retention. My last IPA, I used 1 lb of flaked barley and I have a nice pillowy head that never really goes away. It retains a < 1/4 in head throughout the duration of the drink, from start to finish, and has a nice lacing profile.

Perhaps this could be an acceptable alternative to carapils? Thoughts from those more knowledgeable than I?

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Old 10-02-2012, 06:13 PM   #10
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Duvel has about the best beer foam out there and uses nothing but pils malt and sugar. The point is that you don't need carapils, flaked barley or wheat, or anything else to get good foam. What you need are good procedures. Check this out....

http://byo.com/stories/article/indic...oam-techniques

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