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Old 04-27-2008, 08:47 PM   #1
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I just finished 4th AG. I used 2 oz Cascade whole leaf hops. What a pain. I didn't use a hop bag, just tossed them in the boil. Clogged my spigot, resorted into removing last gallon from boiler with a pitcher. I hope I haven't contaminated the lot.

Suggestions? Use a hop bag? Pellets? Any advantage of leaf?

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Old 04-27-2008, 09:08 PM   #2
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A hop bag will save you a lot of frustration when brewing with whole hops. I almost exclusively use pellets myself though .

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Old 04-27-2008, 09:18 PM   #3
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A hop bag will save you a lot of frustration when brewing with whole hops. I almost exclusively use pellets myself though .
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I use whole leaf or plug when dry hopping OR when pellets are out of stock.
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I prefer leaf hops. I also have a bazooka screen in my kettle to filter them out. Use what works for you, or look at adding some sort of filter in the kettle to keep the hops out of the spigot.

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Old 04-27-2008, 09:35 PM   #5
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I also prefer whole hops, and use a false bottom above the spigot to keep the hops where they belong. I used to whirlpool and use a syphon to drain the kettle when I had an immersion chiller, which worked well. I once forgot the false bottom, and it took forever to drain the kettle.

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Old 04-27-2008, 11:21 PM   #6
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DIY hop bag for extreemely cheap. Just sits ontop of the boil kettle

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Old 04-27-2008, 11:30 PM   #7
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I like to use whole hops. It's an aesthetic thing for me. I get a kick out of using raw ingrediants to make my beer. That's why I almost never make an extract batch, it's seems artificial. Please don't flame me, I'm not saying using DME or LME is wrong or not real, I'm just speaking for myself. For me, I prefer to use whole ingrediants.

So to that end I always use all grain and whole hops. To expidite draining the brew kettle I put the hops in a hop sock. I think that at the scale we are brewing at concerns vis-a-vis hop utilization are pretty theoretical. If someone can tell me with certaintly that they can differentiate between the utilization that they get using a hop bag or not than they are a better brewer than I am and I wish them well.

Oh, I thought of the exception to my rule. I use pellets to dry hop so that I lose less finished product.

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great input, thanks

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Old 04-28-2008, 02:13 AM   #9
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These days you use what you can get your hands on.

My beer volume out of the keggle was suffering because of the hop junk at the bottom. Once I employed a hop bag, siphoning was easier and I ended up with every bit of beer I'd intended to get.

Plus my beer out of the keggle was much clearer:
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I have a setup like BM's, too. Mine's set up so that it can sit a bit lower; I have two pieces of metal rod that run parallel and fit inside of the keg's handles, so that everything is a couple inches closer to the surface. But, I'll only use that when I've got a LOT of additions; for just one or two, I'll just use hop bags. HUGE improvement over loose hops in terms of draining the keggle, and I've come to love whole hops over the mess of pellets.

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