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Old 03-01-2006, 04:23 PM   #1
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Hi,
I'm lining up my equipment for an all grain brew. I wanted a propane cooker for the boil. I was all set to buy one for about $50.00 plus shipping. I don't think that included a regulator. Anyway, I landed up buying a turkey fryer for $39.00 which included the propane cooker, a regulator and a 7 gallon aluminum pot. I fired up the propane cooker and it works fine. My question is, what wrong with using the aluminum pot for doing the boil?

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Old 03-01-2006, 04:36 PM   #2
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Some people say that aluminum gives off flavors into the beer. I use the aluminum pot that came with my turkey fryer and have had no ill effects. The one thing I have to say about it is that you don't want to use a metal spoon with one because it will scratch. Use a wooden or plastic spoon and you will be ok. Brew on brother.

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Aluminum is used extensively in restaurant kitchens--in fact, it's the cookware of choice in maybe all but the highest end commercial kitchens.

Pros don't use aluminum for highly acidic dishes, like tomato sauces. (Because the acid reacts with the aluminum to create an off flavor.) It's highly debatable whether wort is acidic enough to be a concern.

I don't use an aluminum kettle, but I'm a budget-minded brewer and I probably would purchase a large aluminum kettle if the price were right.

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Old 03-01-2006, 04:54 PM   #4
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Some folk have cautioned the use of aluminum because of suspected links to alzhymers (or however you spell it, I seem to have forgotten, damn aluminum pots). Lately I have heard this is not the concern it was made out to be. Brewing with leech oxides from your pot, if this is a health issue I can't say, but I have never tasted a beer that had off-flavors related to aluminum.

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Old 03-01-2006, 05:13 PM   #5
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I've noticed that the aluminum pots that come with turkey fryers are awfully thin and light weight, is that of concern?

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Aluminum is used extensively in restaurant kitchens--in fact, it's the cookware of choice in maybe all but the highest end commercial kitchens.
Respecfully, I believe you're wrong about this. I've never spoken to a professional cook of any kind that uses aluminum for anything other than deep fat frying, and generally not even that.

As far as aluminum boil kettles...there's absolutely nothing wrong with them, except that they're not the right tool for the job. SS heats more evenly, minimizes scorching, gives a better more vigourous boil, and is far easier to clean. Aluminum is absolutely fine...you won't have any problems with it. But as with any fine tool, once you've "cooked" with a good quality SS pot, you'll never want to go back.
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This debate is really old, and no one (at least any homebrewer I've ever talked to, myself included) knows enough metallurgy to settle the debate.

The answer is: it depends.

There are different types and blends of aluminum just like there are different types of stainless steel (e.g. I have a T304 Stainless Steel exhaust, but I've seen a lot of stainless steel pots that are not T304 and are of lower quality, e.g. the kind that come with turkey fryers).

The aluminum pot that came with my turkey fryer is of very good quality and I've never had any issue with scorching or uneven heating. However, I've seen kits that come with very thin, cheap aluminum pots and kits that come with cheap, crappy stainless pots. It all depends.

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You will get alzheimers if you use an aluminium brew kettle even once.

In fact, just posting this thread might push you over the edge.

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SS heats more evenly, minimizes scorching,
FWIW, this is definitely wrong. This is why expensive SS cookware (like all-clad) have stainless layers around heavy aluminum (or copper). Stainless is a superior cooking *surface,* but aluminum and copper are superior heat distributing materials.

As far as what professionals use, I'm educated-guessing and you may be right. I'm not talking about haute-cuisine restaurants so much as just workaday places like Applebees, et al.
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You will get alzheimers if you use an aluminium brew kettle even once.

In fact, just posting this thread might push you over the edge.

What the heck are we talking about? Who are you? Aluminium was linked to alzheimers a while back but has since been debunked. I use my 30 qt pot without any off flavors or worries.
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