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Old 11-20-2012, 12:48 AM   #1
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howdy all. in a bit of a pickle. i planned on making an ipa with 12# esb malt, 2# vienna, .5# carapils, 1 oz. nugget, 1 oz zythos and 2 oz pacific gem. i forgot to add crystal malt of any sort to my order. i'm a little worried if i forge ahead with this it won't have enough of a malty backbone to stand up to the hops.

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But you don't have any crystal malt in your grain bill. Are you considering vienna and carapils crystal malts?

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Old 11-20-2012, 12:55 AM   #3
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howdy all. in a bit of a pickle. i planned on making an ipa with 12# esb malt, 2# vienna, .5# carapils, 1 oz. nugget, 1 oz zythos and 2 oz pacific gem. i forgot to add crystal malt of any sort to my order. i'm a little worried if i forge ahead with this it won't have enough of a malty backbone to stand up to the hops.
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the carapils was added for head retention. the vienna for color ... and i was a sucker for the description. i just totally brainfarted and didn't order any crystal, or factor it in, for that matter. so, what to do?

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the carapils was added for head retention. the vienna for color ... and i was a sucker for the description. i just totally brainfarted and didn't order any crystal, or factor it in, for that matter. so, what to do?
For what it's worth, my favorite IPA recipes have 0 crystal malt- not even carapils in them.

"Less is more" is a good mantra for a grainbill for IPAs, and they are my favorite style.
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:02 AM   #6
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roger that and thanks for the input all! i'm hoping next year i can use some homegrown nugget hops in such a recipe at some point in the process.

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I'd say with the ESB malt and the Vienna, you'll definitely have some malt backbone there.

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I was formulating my recipe for an American IPA and my Jedi Master (LHBS owner) posted this link the same day

I had already used tip #5 - Use English Hops, but then read tip #1 - Don’t Use Crystal Malt

with excellent reasoning behind the tip and I already had Victory and Munich in the recipe, so I dropped the Crystal from the grain bill

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i'll kick the carapils and see what i get.

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brew day went pretty well, outside of a broken hydrometer. next on the list, a smoke beer (7# pilsner, 3# smoke malt, .5# cararoma, .5#caraaroma, 1 oz. perle)

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