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Old 11-13-2012, 11:37 PM   #11
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So, how much Victory would fall under: "A generous portion of lightly roasted malt..."?

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Old 11-14-2012, 01:13 AM   #12
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I really dig victory, so a while back I made a batch with about 20%. Wow, it was a good thing gone too far. After several months, it finally mellowed a bit to where it was generally tolerable but certainly not that good. Since then, I stay around 6-10 in normal beer and maybe 12 or 15 when I need a fix.

If you do go to 50% or higher please post your results.

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Old 11-14-2012, 01:17 AM   #13
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So, how much Victory would fall under: "A generous portion of lightly roasted malt..."?

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8% would be "generous".
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:09 PM   #14
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Interesting all. That's a lot of great info.

I'm still interested in blowing the biscuit taste way out of proportion. How about a grain bill like this?

60 percent Marris otter
25 percent Biscuit
15 percent Victory

I'll probably keep this beer no bigger than 1.045. There's no reason to spend a fortune on an experiment like this.

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Old 11-14-2012, 01:26 PM   #15
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I used 12 oz in a 1.040 blonde ale. It was just under 10%. The beer has a salty taste. I'm not sure if it is from the biscuit malt or something else. I have heard that biscuit malt can taste like a saltine cracker.

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Old 11-14-2012, 01:29 PM   #16
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I used 4# Victory in a Oud Bruin sour. 10g batch. Also had 3# Special Roast. It made a fine sour. But sure, might be too much in a brown ale or similar.

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15 lbs SB Pilsner (2 Row) Ger (1.7 SRM) Grain 1 59.4 %
4 lbs Victory Malt (28.0 SRM) Grain 2 15.8 %
3 lbs Special Roast (50.0 SRM) Grain 3 11.9 %
1 lbs 4.0 oz SB Special B / Caramel/Crystal Malt -135L (120.0 SRM) Grain 4 5.0 %
1 lbs Light Wheat (1.7 SRM) Grain 5 4.0 %
1 lbs SB Caramunich Malt I (35.0 SRM)
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:35 PM   #17
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I am a Victory/Biscuit lover too. Keeping the thread on track, with a 'dry bready' flavor to the beer already, what hops and yeast would complement such a bold brew?

I wouldn't want it too dry on the attenuation side, what about London III?

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Old 11-16-2012, 01:49 PM   #18
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I say try it. But if you're going to go that high on the Victory and Biscuit, might I suggest some crystal to offset the huge flavors you're lining up on the drier side of the spectrum? For a beer like that I'd go with a smaller amount of crystal but something on the darker side--like some crystal 120L to mellow the dryness/bready-ness of the Victory and Biscuit. However you decide to do it, let us know how it turns out!

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Ryane used 22% biscuit in a saison http://ryanbrews.blogspot.com/2009/0...ic-saison.html and said, "it's not overpowering but it is definitely present." I think 40% in a moderate gravity beer could be good, if not necessarily sessionable. I'd use 2-row instead of MO, as I think the 40% would overpower (and overlap) the subtleties of the MO.

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Interesting all. That's a lot of great info.

I'm still interested in blowing the biscuit taste way out of proportion. How about a grain bill like this?

60 percent Marris otter
25 percent Biscuit
15 percent Victory

I'll probably keep this beer no bigger than 1.045. There's no reason to spend a fortune on an experiment like this.
I'm going to go ahead and call that undrinkable...but have fun! Also, why are you using Victory and Biscuit at the same time? And why are you using more expensive Marris Otter malt? Do you really think that you will be able to distinguish the toasty biscuityness of it while you have an equivalent of 'biscuits up your ass, down your throat, and out your nose' amount of biscuit malt? IMO you are seriously wasting your time, money, and effort. 10% of biscuit malt is 'over the top'. This is just death by biscuit.
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