 |
|
02-27-2011, 06:08 AM
|
#1
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: San Carlos, CA
Posts: 11
|
using RO water + all grain = some kind of water profile?
|
|
Basically, does the process of mashing release any kind of minerals into the water by itself?
|
|
|
02-27-2011, 12:48 PM
|
#2
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 1,149
|
Not enough to give the enzymes or yeast the ability to work properly.
__________________
Drinking on the keg: BPA, Brown Ale, Dry Mead, Wee Heavy aged on Oak, CAP
Drinking in the Bottle:
Conditioning:
Fermenting:
Planning:
|
|
|
02-27-2011, 01:23 PM
|
#3
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Carmel, IN
Posts: 1,843
Liked 70 Times on 60 Posts Likes Given: 13
|
Mashing does release minerals from the grain into the wort, but the concentrations of many ions are insufficient for good fermentation performance.
Brewers should note that decoction mashing releases more minerals from the grain than does infusion mashing. The grain boiling of decoction helps break down the cell walls and release more into the wort.
|
|
|
02-27-2011, 01:36 PM
|
#4
|
|
Vendor and Brewer
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Piscataway, NJ
Posts: 20,661
Liked 460 Times on 325 Posts Likes Given: 8
|
Amylase needs calcium to work anyway. All RO Isn't the best idea.
__________________
BrewHardware.com
Sightglass, Refractometer, Ball Valve, Weldless bulkhead, Thermometer, Decals, Stainless Steel Fittings, Compression Fittings, Camlock Quick Disconnects, Scale, RIMS tube, Plate Chiller, Chugger Pump, Super Clear Silicone Tubing, and more!
|
|
|
02-27-2011, 01:54 PM
|
#5
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
Posts: 189
Liked 3 Times on 2 Posts
|
There are minerals in water that effect ph. The process the water goes through removes those minerals and can throw off the ph. RO is great for extract/steaping but for ag your better off mixing it with tap water. I would boil 2/3 of your volume the night before, tap water, and let it rest uncovered to dissipate chlorine. Most citys use chloride instead of chlorine because it stays in solution longer, if you have chloride in your water and you can taste it after the rest, if you taste chlorine then drop in a chlorine neutralizing tablet and brew away. Use RO for the balance of the water and you are generally good to go.
VB
|
|
|
02-27-2011, 02:13 PM
|
#6
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,126
Liked 50 Times on 48 Posts Likes Given: 6
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by dismal
Basically, does the process of mashing release any kind of minerals into the water by itself?
|
It's pretty difficult to quantify, so I just assume that it doesn't. You need to have at least 50 ppm of calcium for the yeast to be happy.
__________________
The Fiesty(sic) Goat Brewery est. 2007 & Clusterfuggle Experimental Ales est. 2009
Planned: Fat Man Porter, sLambic II, Brettennial Falcon IPA, Flanders Red, Orange Blossom Mead
Primary: Winexpert Riesling Ice Wine, sLambic I
Secondary: Flanders Red
Kegged:Black or Blue EyePA, Cherrywood-aged Crystal Stout,
2013 dump volume: ~2 gallons
|
|
|
02-27-2011, 02:30 PM
|
#7
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Alternate Universe
Posts: 1,995
Liked 35 Times on 33 Posts Likes Given: 8
|
Go to brew science and look at the water primer sticky.
|
|
|
02-27-2011, 03:38 PM
|
#8
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Red Deer, Alberta
Posts: 789
Liked 10 Times on 8 Posts Likes Given: 1
|
I brewed Kolsch and pilsner with 100% RO water without any ill effects that I can tell, mashed without problem, got good efficency, fermented down dry as I wanted, taste good, can't tell any difference from tap water. Speaking from a first hand experience not from since behind it. Best idea probably mix RO water with tap water
|
|
|
02-28-2011, 04:29 PM
|
#9
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: San Carlos, CA
Posts: 11
|
Yeah, I was just curious if the grains themselves have significant minerals in them, I don't plan on using all RO (unless I'm doing extract), though I might start doing half RO half spring for certain beers.
|
|
|
02-28-2011, 05:34 PM
|
#10
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: San Carlos, CA
Posts: 11
|
Hmm, just had an interesting idea. In theory, could you do something like all RO + yeast nutrient and get a healthy fermentation? Or is the problem that you need certain minerals for efficient mashing?
|
|
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
|
|
|