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Old 11-30-2008, 01:57 PM   #1
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Default Urgent help needed! Have I ruined my brew!!!

Ok, brew day was going so well, until I f**ked up big time, I think!

I was supposed to add some brewing salts (added to increase the calcium level of my mash water) to the grist in my mash tun, but added 7 grams (0.25oz) of my cleaning powder - TSP (tri-sodium phosphate solution) - instead.

Will this kill my beer! As I'm boiling the wort anyway, will this be ok, or should I ditch it!

Please help.

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Old 11-30-2008, 02:08 PM   #2
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Well, unfortunately the TSP isn't going to boil away and it's going to raise the pH of your mash, so I don't how that's going to affect it. At the very least, it'll probably taste a bit soapy. Sorry to hear about that.

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Old 11-30-2008, 02:33 PM   #3
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Man, I don't know. Pull a sample and see if it's noticeable.

I'm seeing a trend here with people putting the wrong stuff in their brews these days. A few ziplock baggies and a Sharpie™ ahead of time would probably help avoid these mistakes. Review your recipe well before cracking open any beer for yourself. Have your ingredients pre-measured and marked with both contents and times for additions. Lay these ingredients out in order that they are to be used. Have a copy of your brew instructions printed out and at hand while you brew. Don't get too trashed before you pitch.

( Not trying to insinuate the OP is/was trashed here, just saying...)

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Has anyone checked the TSP container...isn't TSP poisonous if ingested???

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Has anyone checked the TSP container...isn't TSP poisonous if ingested???
It won't kill you, if that's what you mean. It'll be varying degrees of unpleasant, depending on how much you ingest, but it won't kill you, especially at only 7 grams in 5 gallons.
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Do not taste the beer. This is very bad on the body!
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Sounds like pulling a sample is a bad idea...
I stand corrected. I didn't say to swallow though.
Sorry about your brew, and I stand by the rest of the advice.

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I vote for dumping it...it ain't worth it...

and for god sakes switch to a cleaner like oxyclean or something like pbw that is meant to be used around food preparation....

It's the 21st century, we don't need to use such oldschool stuff anymore when there are plenty of products that we know is safe to use.

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I'm with the other users here. Sadly, you should write this one off as a bad experience and not continue further. Switch to something made to be used around food prep. Why take the chance?
Accidents happen. You shouldn't have to pay long-term, don't let this batch go any further.
I lay out my ingredients/steps side-by-side in the order of which they get used (for additions, etc) -and pre-measure and put in zip-locks (with labels) everything that gets pitched. It makes for a much nicer brewday experience (I pre-measure and ziplock before brewday -as brewday is always much to busy to clutter up further with this kind of thing) -then I set the pot(s) on the burner (s), pull a big stein full of my favorite draft, and set to brewing.

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I lay out my ingredients/steps side-by-side in the order of which they get used (for additions, etc) -and pre-measure and put in zip-locks (with labels) everything that gets pitched. It makes for a much nicer brewday experience (I pre-measure and ziplock before brewday -as brewday is always much to busy to clutter up further with this kind of thing) -then I set the pot(s) on the burner (s), pull a big stein full of my favorite draft, and set to brewing.
It sounds like you have the perfect solution for druken brewing...pre laying everything out...

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