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05-14-2011, 09:15 PM
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troubleshooting a few issues with my IPA
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i wanted to crank my IPA to be pretty bitter and hoppy. according to beersmith i was calculated 88 ibs, and according to my hydrometer i hit my OG and FG (7.0 abvish). i used about 55 ibus at bittering w/ chinook, and the rest of ibus later in boil w/ columbus/centennial. all failry high alpha acid hops with high cohumulone. just a simple 70% 2row and 30% light munich to let those hops shine, no crystal. well, the beer itself tastes great, but not what i was expecting in terms of that hop "bite". it seriously tastes like a 45 ibu pale ale. while this issue could be rather complex, does anyone have a suggestion? old hops from supplier with incorrect alphas? shady utilization? my palate being destroyed by IIPAs?
next, i used US-05 yeast. what is up with the peach aroma? i noticed this in my previous batch and i thought the apollo/simcoe dry hop was the culprit. i want to say its a tropical aroma from hops, but no...its that damn identical peach aroma again in this batch. dry hopping w/ all the hops mentioned above i was expecting pine/citrus...not the peach. its very noticable and almost over powers the dry hop. never had this issue with this yeast until these last 2 batches. fermented at 65 with a temp. control for 21 days in primary, no secondary used. anyone have this issue? my answer to this is im going back to liquid/starters to see if there is a difference, never noticed before....
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05-14-2011, 09:27 PM
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Could be your water. I have the opposite problem. My water is too high in sulfates. I got bitter, no doubt. I've started diluting my water to mellow out hops. If you want in your face hops, check the sulfate levels in your water.
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05-14-2011, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Reelale
Could be your water. I have the opposite problem. My water is too high in sulfates. I got bitter, no doubt. I've started diluting my water to mellow out hops. If you want in your face hops, check the sulfate levels in your water.
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Are you referring to tap water? I believe I have the same issues. Should I use bottle water or just filtered water.
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05-14-2011, 10:07 PM
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i guess i should get a water report and see what im working with. anyone have a soild link on how to treat water? i dont know the process...
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05-14-2011, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by hopdreams
Are you referring to tap water? I believe I have the same issues. Should I use bottle water or just filtered water.
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You really should obtain a water report. Ward labs offers a good report for cheap. I filter my water, but I have too much sulfate. Diluting 50% with RO got me right.
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05-14-2011, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by zodiak3000
i guess i should get a water report and see what im working with. anyone have a soild link on how to treat water? i dont know the process...
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Check out aj's water chemistry primer. It's a sticky.
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Originally Posted by marubozo
You take a dollar and then add more dollars. The more dollars you accumulate the wealthier you become.
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05-14-2011, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Reelale
Check out aj's water chemistry primer. It's a sticky.
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05-15-2011, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Reelale
You really should obtain a water report. Ward labs offers a good report for cheap. I filter my water, but I have too much sulfate. Diluting 50% with RO got me right.
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This might be a dumb question, what a water report and how do I request one? Is this something I can order via web?
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05-15-2011, 02:05 AM
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This might be a dumb question, what a water report and how do I request one? Is this something I can order via web?
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There are no dumb questions. http://www.wardlab.com/FeeSchedule/WaterAnalysis.aspx
Order test W-6 or W-5. The instructions are on their website.
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05-15-2011, 02:09 AM
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The first thing that occurs to me is that a 30% munich malt grainbill will be a very malty tasting beer, and not at all like a typical IPA.
I also have tasted peach esters in S05, particularly at cooler temperatures (like 62 degrees).
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