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Old 02-17-2008, 03:54 PM   #1
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Experienced extract brewer tempted fate last night and went all grain. Think I managed to salvage something but after a bitter battle with a stuck/semi stuck mash.

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10lbs. Muntons 2row Pale
1lb. Muntons 49-60L Crystal
1lb. Flaked Maize

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Dough in to 4 gal. room temp H20, raise temp to 159
dump into water cooler/mash tun
mash 90 min.

This is where it all went bad. Could never get the mash to run off. dribbled, dripped stopped ad absurdem. Got down and dirty with a kitchen strainer and tried to salvage something. Managed to collect about 3 gal. clear(ish) runnings. Proceeded withboil.
If the Dr. Gregory House of Homebrewing is out there, try to diagnose any of my numerous screw ups that you choose. Would appreciate it. Will it ferment?be beer?taste like crap?

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Old 02-17-2008, 03:58 PM   #2
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We can't help until you describe your mash tun's filter design. A picture would be best.

You didn't pour any sparge water through the grain?

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Old 02-17-2008, 03:59 PM   #3
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How are you attempting to lauter...manifold? braid? The flaked maize could make the mash a little sticky?? How crushed were the grains?? The problem must either be the crush or the tuns straining ability.

Did you add water to grain ar grain to water??

If it make you feel any better...you most likely have made beer and some pretty strong stuff, let it ride and see how it tastes.

This guide by Denny might help

Cheap 'n' Easy Batch Sparge Brewing
http://www.tastybrew.com/articles/dennyconn001

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Old 02-17-2008, 04:08 PM   #4
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Sorry, I thought I might have been getting wordy for my first posting, so here's the rest of the info:

SS braid on a ball valve (got plans from this site) for sparging

did attempt "batch sparge" with about 3 gals. 170d. h20

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A picture would be very helpfull here. Was it the braid that seemed clogged, the valve?

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I bought the grains pre crushed from my distributor (Crosby and Baker, Westport, Ma.) and I'm wondering if they were a bit "powdery"? First AG, though, so nothing to compare to.

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Did you barley open the ball valve or completely open the sucker? You need to just slightly open the valve to let it flow slowly at first then open it a little bit more once you have a decent dribble for a while. You also need to recirculate the first few quarts of wort to get a nice filter bed going before you attempt to drain off.

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When I dug it all out with the strainer, it just seemed that there were particulates fine enough to be pulled right onto the hose, tight enough to completely block the flow. After boiling, my 2 1/2 gals. had a gravity of 1.072??? so I diluted to 5 gal. and got 1.050...and I'm not making any of this up!

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I'm going out on a limb and take a guess that your "stainless" braid is actually a plastic braid. Home Depot? Likely.

If that's not it, I'll ask how much tubing did you have on the output of the ball valve?

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It happens to me every now and then and I've got 24" of braid in my cooler. I just blow into the hose on the end of my ball valve for a couple of seconds and all is good. I'm not worried about sanitation problems by putting my mouth on in for because I'll be boiling for an hour.

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