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Orfy 12-02-2006 08:17 PM

Speed Brewing?
 
Does any one have any tips comments suggestions on doing a speedy brew?

Do you stick to 1,2,3 time scales?

1 week primary
2 week secondary
3 week bottle?

I have done 10 day primary and 10 days in a keg for a session beer at around 3%.

Is there a viable way to kick out a quick beer?

cha ngo 12-02-2006 08:31 PM

I make a pale ale that spends a week in the primary, is kegged and then force carbonated. I am drinking it in less than two weeks. It would surely benefit from a secondary, but is very drinkable.

Baron von BeeGee 12-02-2006 08:32 PM

To be honest, my pipeline dried up and I have kegged both an IPA and a stout straight away following primary fermentation and applied the CO2. The IPA was drinkable as soon as it carb'ed, but predictably became much better in the following couple of weeks. I'm sure given a proper schedule it would have been great out of the gate.

The stout was brewed later and is still carb'ing, but samples indicate that I will also drink it as soon as it's ready, though I'm sure it also will improve with age if it survives.

Had my pipeline not dried up I wouldn't have known, but it did so I do. I'll get back to my secondary carboy step with my rye PA.

The bottom line to all this rambling is that it's possible with any normal beer, but with substandard (albeit acceptable) results. I don't brew anything below around 4.5% (intentionally, anyways) so can't say on those (nothing against 'em, I just don't brew them).

cha ngo 12-02-2006 08:37 PM

When I saw the topic of your post, my hope was that we would discuss time saving tips for brew day. Right now, I do back to back 10 gallon batches and it takes a good 8-9 hours. I really should try batch sparging.

Orfy 12-02-2006 08:53 PM

I can do an AG in around 5 hours

Cleaning, prep, set up 30 minutes.
Mash 90 minutes
Sparge 20 minutes
Boil 80 minutes
Coil 30 minutes
Pitch 10 minutes
Clear up 30 minutes

cha ngo 12-02-2006 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orfy
I can do an AG in around 50 hours

Cleaning, prep, set up 30 minutes.
Mash 90 minutes
Sparge 20 minutes
Boil 80 minutes
Coil 30 minutes
Pitch 10 minutes
Clear up 30 minutes

Sounds about right.
Questions:
You boil for 80 minutes? Does that include the time to bring a batch to boiling? I boil for an hour and it takes about 40 minutes to get there (10+ gallons).
Sparge 20 minutes? Must be a batch sparge. My fly sparge takes close to an hour and that is where I think I can save significant time.

Orfy 12-02-2006 09:02 PM

Yup, 20 minutes to boil (7g) 60 minutes from 1st hop addition.

I batch sparge. Makes for simple equipment, less work, never had a problem with the wort gravity.
I either add a little more grain or just take the ale a little lighter or sparge with a little less water.

david_42 12-02-2006 09:28 PM

Lower ABV ales will almost always be ready faster. Browns and Milds lend themselves to faster brewing. I'd shoot for <4% and use a huge starter. Keep the temperature near the middle of the yeast's range. Even so, four weeks is about the minimum.

perry 12-02-2006 10:17 PM

Well, this was a fast one, thanks to the abnormal virility of the yeast.... but, took the usual five hours to go from grind to fermentor, active fermentation within three hours.... (go figure!)... then, fermentation (also abnormally huge!) seems to have stopped after three days. (SG 62, TG 17). Keg. Artificial carbonation and settling- two days. Draw first pint (yeast laden and quite yummy, and for myself of course, so's not to poison my wife or friends) on the evening of the sixth day after brewing. The rest is bliss.

This is not normal. But, in a pinch, I can usually get a batch out and into the pint glasses within two weeks.... The beer's a bit green, I guess, and is better after three or four weeks, but who can wait that long?

Most batches- three weeks- brew to consumtion.

cheers, cheers, p

ps. I'm intrigued by those who can brew a batch in 4 hours... how long a mash? how long a boil?

Orfy 12-02-2006 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cha ngo
Sounds about right.
Questions:
You boil for 80 minutes? Does that include the time to bring a batch to boiling? I boil for an hour and it takes about 40 minutes to get there (10+ gallons).
Sparge 20 minutes? Must be a batch sparge. My fly sparge takes close to an hour and that is where I think I can save significant time.


Just edited!!!! 5 hours not 50 hours.


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