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Old 04-09-2012, 11:43 PM   #21
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Oh ye doubters, no pulling of legs here.

I can't say that I was shooting for an extremely clear wort, and a cloudy brew doesn't bother me unless it comes along with flavor issues. I posted this only because I was taken aback when I saw how clear it was, I was happier about hitting my numbers. I figured that either I am improving or something is horribly wrong I've noticed that many people hesitate when they try a cloudy homebrew for the first time. I don't object to clarity, and it seems to be more attractive to friends. I may try gelatin simply because I've never used it, I usually forget the whirlfloc, too.

I think the pink color is an illusion due to the 1990's white cabinets, the early 2000's red wall, and the camera in my phone that's catching about nine different light sources.

I have always used a sanitized turkey baster and sanitized the tube as well. I've thought about the wine thief, but is there really a significant advantage over a turkey baster? Sometimes I just siphon directly into the sanitized tube. I obsess over using sanitizer on every damned thing, and have never had a problem - at least not that I can blame on taking samples.

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I often sanitize my hydrometer test jar, too. Not because I put the sample back in the fermenter (I don't!) but because I usually manage to hit it about 4 times on the inside trying to fill it with a turkey baster and I figure it can't hurt to sanitize it. Today I was dryhopping with 4.5 ounces of hops, and sanitized the hydrometer tube, the turkey baster (so I could check the SG before adding the hops) and even the scissors to cut open the hops packages. But normally I forget that.

I figure it's one of those things- probably not necessary but the extra caution won't hurt either.

With my HERMS, and a good cold break, I've had really clear wort going into the fermenter. I know that it's mostly aesthetics, but I LOVE holding a nice clear beer up that looks, smells, and tastes of a commercial beer (or even better!) quality. Maybe that makes me a beersnob, but I've also been known to visit friends and gleefully consume their cloudy beers just as quickly as a clear beer. It's just that my preference would be to have my own be clear.

It's like cooking. Stew would taste the same if it was prepared and thrown in a blender, or just served up in a bowl with a sprig of parsley. Even if it tastes the same, the nice serving presentation is just more appetizing.
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Old 04-10-2012, 12:42 AM   #22
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Shhh, don't tell anyone but I sanitize my scissors, too.

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but all other beers should be clear for me to really feel that it's an excellent beer. Maybe I'm shallow, but it's important to me.
It's kinda like ordering a steak well done... you're missing out on a lot of flavour.
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It's kinda like ordering a steak well done... you're missing out on a lot of flavour.
Are you saying that clear beer has less flavor?
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Are you saying that clear beer has less flavor?
I personally love wits and hefe's and the flavour that the yeasts give them. If clearer is better then filtered would be best and we know that simply isn't so...
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I personally love wits and hefe's and the flavour that the yeasts give them. If clearer is better then filtered would be best and we know that simply isn't so...
First of all, those two styles are exceptions to the rule--where the rule is that beers taste better when the yeast has dropped out of the beer. Second, there's nothing wrong with filtered beer. Do you not like Stone beers, for example? Do you not like Sierra Nevada?
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Do you not like Stone beers, for example?
I've heard that Stone filters their beers through the cleavage of a thousand naked Norse Goddesses. But, I could be wrong.
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Second, there's nothing wrong with filtered beer. Do you not like Stone beers, for example? Do you not like Sierra Nevada?
I think filtering removes alot of the flavor from beers. We don't get either of those beers here but I basically only drink microbrew unfiltered stuff. It's a preference and an opinion. I'll never be convinced otherwise. Lol
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When I get a really beautifully clear beer in my glass, I will drink it slowly, and study it through the light until my wife tells me I am a fool of a man. I will do anything to get brilliantly clear beer. It is a mark of skill of the brewer.

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Didn't mean to stir the pot this much with my comment. I've personally always felt clearing, or filtering which is what is most commonly done to commercial brews, removes a lot of body and taste compounds and the point of clear beer doesn't make much sense to me other than trying to copy the look of today's common commercial beers just so you can say you we're able to achieve the same. Clearing beer, again most modernly done commercially via filtering, or done via fining agents is mostly a non-natural process, I mean... gelatine? That's an animal derived byproduct.

Not saying I don't marvel at times how clear I've had some of my brews come out naturally, but I could care less overall so long as it's not uber opaque - @Yoop, orange juice is a big stretch, none of mine have ever been that opaque. I only get a light haze.

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