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Old 02-28-2012, 02:33 PM   #1
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Hi all,

I am new to brewing.. having gone through 3 extract kits before moving to All Grain, and just finished my 2nd All Grain Brew Day.

I decided to do some SMaSH IPA's to learn the flavor profiles of various grains and hops - primarily Hops at this point, as I got a 50lb sack of Maris Otter I need to work through.

Below is my recipe (5 gallon batch):

120 minute mash at 152°
60 minute boil
OG: 1.066 (dead-on beersmith's prediction)

12lb Maris Otter
1oz Citra - 60 min (whole)
1oz Citra - 45 min (whole)
1oz Citra - 30 min (whole)
1.5oz Citra - 15 min (pellet)
1oz Citra - 10 min (pellet)
1.5oz Citra - 5 min (pellet)
3oz Citra - DH (pellet



I'm not too worried as I realize different people like different types of beer. I for one love off-the-wall hoppy beer... but how much is too much? The IBU's were somewhere around 150 I believe. At the time I realized this may be way too high considering it isn't going to be a very malty or highly alcoholic beer.

What do you guys think??

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Old 02-28-2012, 02:46 PM   #2
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What yeast are you using? That seems like a lot of hops in a 1.066 beer unless the yeast is a low attentuator.

I'm sure it will still be delicious and if its overpowering there's nothing that lessens hop flavor better than time.



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The purpose of a SMaSH imo is creating a balanced beer between the hops and malts while displaying the best qualities of both. So yes imo, 150 ibu is too much.

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Short answer: never too much. Long answer: it is too much, because the theoretical threshold of hop utilization is 100 IBUs, and adding any more is basically a waste. Also, research mash techniques, there is no need to mash for 2 hrs, as conversion can take place in as little as 20 minutes (saving you 1 hr and 40 minutes on brew day!). When learning the characteristics of the various ingredients, it is extremely important to take copious notes of what is in it, how you brewed it, what it tasted like like, and what you will do different next time. Sounds obvious, but that process is over 2 months (at least 2 brews).

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Another quick tip: make a super simple, extremely balanced pale, then split the batch up to dry hop with various different strains. This will save you some time, and you will be able to compare/contrast the various flavor profiles side by side.

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Has anyone else found citra as catty when used as a bittering addition?

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Damn. Regarding the 2 hour mash, I did not intend to mash for 2 hours - but between multi-tasking and heating sparge water, it ended up at 2 hours - plus the Pens game was on! Also, from what I've read, the longer the mash the higher efficiency - not that you can't mash in 20 minutes, but it certainly wouldn't hurt to mash for 2 hours correct? I've read about some people here mashing overnight?

Anyway, you live and you learn. I did my first AG two weekends ago - went crazy off the bat and tried Biermuncher's Tits Up IIPA - which is went surprisingly well and is fermenting just perfectly so far. Then this Maris/Citra SMaSH..

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Another quick tip: make a super simple, extremely balanced pale, then split the batch up to dry hop with various different strains. This will save you some time, and you will be able to compare/contrast the various flavor profiles side by side.
That sounds like a really good idea. I need to get some more Carboys and try this... that will ensure the Malt characteristics are exactly the same through the various brews.
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Has anyone else found citra as catty when used as a bittering addition?
Are you saying Citra may be unpleasant as a bittering Hops? I hope not! haha. I would imagine it is a matter of personal preference..
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I like experimenting in 1 gallon jugs. Really cheap and if its bad I only wasted 1/5 of a barch



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