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shoreman 02-26-2012 03:22 PM

Setting up 2nd system looking for time saving BIAB
 
Ive been brewing on and off for about 10 years - about two years ago I sold all my gear and have been rebuilding. Now I have the chance to rebuild and am looking mostly to brew a BIAB partial boil system which I believe is called maxi biab. My main goal is the shortest brew day possible - I mostly brew session ales british & belgian influenced ales in sub 1.060 range and would like to brew some 10 gallon session batches like milds & bitters partial boil. Fermentation & recipe creation is my fav part of brewing - dont like building stuff and would rather pay with $than time.

Right now I've got:

5 gallon kettle
2 gallon pot for sparge water
Bucket for "sparge" dunk of bag
Kegging setup

What i think I need:

Larger kettle
Dudadeisel plate chiller
Possibly an outdoor burner

Do you have any thoughts on gear? What would you buy for the shortest brew day possible? Would love to get under 3 hours - maybe 2.5 hour mash to fermentor.

shoreman 02-26-2012 03:33 PM

Oh ya I'm currently doing everything on the stovetop with an ice bath chill.

bschoenb 02-26-2012 04:20 PM

I'd go with at least a 10 gallon pot. I can't always fit all my water in the kettle with BIAB, but using a bit more water allows you to not have to remove the bag, dunk, etc. The extra water allows you to sparge with it as well during mash out. I just pull the bag a bit (in garage w/hook); mash out and add any extra water I need during the temp rise to boiling. When I use less water my effeciency goes way down due to less sparge water imho. One kettle this way...

shoreman 02-26-2012 05:45 PM

Thats a good thought b. Do you have any other tips to reduce time on the brew day? So the thicker mash leads to lower efficiency? Have you tried a rhicker mash and then a dunk/sparge out? One thing i like about partial boil is that i chill spring water to almost freezing and add to fermentor befoe adding wort - i can add 110 degree wort 3gollons and cut with 2 and get to pitching.

bschoenb 02-26-2012 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by shoreman (Post 3831557)
Thats a good thought b. Do you have any other tips to reduce time on the brew day? So the thicker mash leads to lower efficiency? Have you tried a rhicker mash and then a dunk/sparge out? One thing i like about partial boil is that i chill spring water to almost freezing and add to fermentor befoe adding wort - i can add 110 degree wort 3gollons and cut with 2 and get to pitching.


Yeah; invest in a chiller; why go through all that trouble with Dunk sparging, Ice water, yada, yada.. it take 15 minutes to brink my Wort to pitchable temp using an immersion chiller. Also, you use less hops w/full volume boil and everything is "sanitized".

As I speak surfing the net, my Mash is almost complete and I will very soon mash out, suspend the bag, and start my boil... simple!

shoreman 02-26-2012 09:02 PM

What do think about a 15 gallon kettle like the penrose? I think that woul be plenty sufficent to move up a bit as well

shoreman 02-28-2012 12:04 AM

So I'm going with a 15 gallon kettle.

Any other ideas to shorten the brew day?

zacster 02-28-2012 12:25 AM

Immersion chiller. Propane burner. Kettle with a spigot, thermometer and sight gauge. Don't underestimate how much you need those on a kettle. A ready made kettle blanket for the mash. I have all but the propane and after spending a lot of time yesterday I'm looking at a burner.

Definitely get the chiller, you won't be able to easily move a 15 gallon kettle with hot liquid into an ice batch, and it'll take a lot of ice. I DIYed mine but just buy one pre-made, it doesn't cost much more and it'll look better.

MalFet 02-28-2012 12:27 AM

Realistically, if you're trying to get your brew day to below 3 hours, you'll need a powerful burner.

shoreman 02-28-2012 01:19 AM

Thanks for replies.

I've had an immersion chiller in the past and am thinking of plate chiller - seems way more efficient in time and water.

Yup will be getting a burner and kettle with spigot


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