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Old 05-01-2007, 02:33 PM   #1
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Default Screwed up my starter...which yeast to use?

So made a starter yesterday with California ale 001. I went and checked the starter this morning and it smells cidery, not anything like beer so I figure it got infected (first time this happened, first time using Iodophor). So now I have a couple options for my Blonde ale.
1. Pacman smack pack
2. Nottingham dry yeast


So what do you guys think, I'm brewing as we speak


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Old 05-01-2007, 02:56 PM   #2
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Um, what kind of beer? edit- never mind- I see "blond ale". Duh!

My guess would be nottingham. Two reasons- it's neutral, like the California yeast, and you don't have to make a starter with dry yeast. You'd need a starter for the pacman, since it's been sitting around for a while.

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Old 05-01-2007, 02:58 PM   #3
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Taste it. That's a good indicator as to the flavor and if it's spoiled. It only takes a few drops.

You may not have enough experience tasting your yeast, but this is one way to get it.

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Taste it. That's a good indicator as to the flavor and if it's spoiled. It only takes a few drops.

You may not have enough experience tasting your yeast, but this is one way to get it.
I will taste it, but it smells like fruit and cider. I've never had a starter smell like anything other than beer. I just had one bad batch and am not ready to try my luck with a possible bad batch of yeast though. Nottingham it is..should I rehydrate or just toss it in?


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I've had WLP001 smell a little fruity when the temps were on the warm side (72-74), I've never noticed a cidery smell though with it.

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Rehydrate... why not... good luck! I did my first starter a cpl weeks ago, I used bleach and then hot water to rinse. I know ppl dislike bleach, but I have never had an infection with bleach and hot water rinse.

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Rehydrate... why not... good luck! I did my first starter a cpl weeks ago, I used bleach and then hot water to rinse. I know ppl dislike bleach, but I have never had an infection with bleach and hot water rinse.
Neither have I.
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Blond ale wants to be pretty dry and crisp. The Cali 001 seems like it was a good choice; I bet the Pacman works great, as well. I've never used Pacman (I was tempted to grab a smackpack at the HBS this weekend, but it's got to be pretty out of date by now), but from what I've read it sounds like a juiced-up version of 001; very clean, very high attenuation, sounds like it would be real nice for a blond.

The Nottingham would work well, too, and be easier.

Since the Pacman's probably fairly old (they stopped selling those a while ago), you absolutely need to make another stater for it. If you're using the right concentration of Iodophor, it should be perfectly fine for sanitation. Never had a problem with it. One capful per 2.5 gallons.

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well if the 001 doesnt come through.......

Nottingham definitely

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I've had WLP001 smell a little fruity when the temps were on the warm side (72-74), I've never noticed a cidery smell though with it.

James
It is fruity and it was left in the house which sits around 74 degrees. The yeast tastes fine, although it is sweet and a bit like cider or fruit. It's not sour, and it's not bad tasting..I just don't want to chance anything with this batch.


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