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Old 09-01-2013, 02:12 AM   #1
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I've got a NB Saison going with 3724 that I don't think is finishing right. It's been about three weeks and when I racked it today I took a hydro reading and it's only 1.024 Tastes pretty sweet, too. I've tried to keep it at about 80 degrees. Will racking rouse the yeast and maybe finish it out a bit more? I certainly want it drier than it currently is.

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Old 09-01-2013, 02:36 AM   #2
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80 is nothing to this yeast. Try getting it up to 90 if you can. Also try gently swirling the yeast up into suspension if they've fallen out.

If both these steps fail, you can pitch some US-05 to get it the rest of the way.

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Old 09-01-2013, 03:15 AM   #3
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i've brewed saisons with the 3724 yeast a few times. i tend to brew it in the summer. reason why is when the fermentation seems to slow down halfway, i stick my fermentor in the garage until it gets the temperature way up to 85+ degrees.

in the wintertime when i use the 3724, i sit my fermentor on a heating pad, believe it or not.

i usually start the 3724 off cold, like 68 degrees. then i allow it to go up to the mid 80's.

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i've brewed saisons with the 3724 yeast a few times. i tend to brew it in the summer. reason why is when the fermentation seems to slow down halfway, i stick my fermentor in the garage until it gets the temperature way up to 85+ degrees.

in the wintertime when i use the 3724, i sit my fermentor on a heating pad, believe it or not.

i usually start the 3724 off cold, like 68 degrees. then i allow it to go up to the mid 80's.

I did start it around 70 and let it come up to as warm as the house would get it. Figures the 5 days after I brewed were the coolest in weeks. I actually had the fermenter covered with two hoodie sweatshirts. I'm hoping that the action of racking it will rouse the yeast a bit. I did notice as I was siphoning, that I started to see bubbles breaking the surface again. I didn't want to go as far as putting a heading pad under the fermenter.
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Old 09-01-2013, 03:17 PM   #5
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That yeast likes it hot! Wyeast recommends pitching at 80 and raising into the 90s to prevent stalling. Since you pitched colder and didn't go that high it will be slow, like 4 weeks slow, you should not have racked it off the primary yeast cake.

Not saying it won't finish but you need to warm it up and it will definitely finish below 1.010!

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Old 09-01-2013, 04:47 PM   #6
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So, set in on the back porch for the 90 degree day today? Heating pad under the fermenter (better bottle)?

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So, set in on the back porch for the 90 degree day today? Heating pad under the fermenter (better bottle)?
You don't want to keep swinging temps on the yeast so the heating pad would be better but you need to figure out what temp it's going to sit at so it doesn't get too hot! Personally I would wrap it around the vessel as the weight on the pad might cause problems since its not really designed for that use
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I tested out the heating pad and with a probe thermometer sitting on the pad with a little weight on top it was already north of 120 on low, so that's no good. I'm going to put in the garage where the temps don't swing too badly and hope for the best.

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You could also use an aquarium heater.

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Old 09-03-2013, 09:37 PM   #10
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Easier option, pitch a pack of Wyeast 3711. 3711 likes it on the cooler side, between 68-75, and will attenuate like a champ. And since the bulk of your fermentation is already over, you should get more of the 3724 character than the 3711.

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