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Old 05-23-2012, 07:27 PM   #1
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Alright, the natural gas fired, RIMS Sabco Brew Magic converstion to e-HERMS is complete. I'm expecting to receive an order or ingredients for my first batch and I'd like to see how bad I can screw this up on Saturday morning. Never done all grain, only a few partial mash brews, and never watched anyone else brew an all grain batch.

I boiled water in the BK the other night, pumped liquid around the through all the kettles and coil. Still working on getting the pumps to positively prime each time, especially from the low-sitting BK.

So...about this all grain thing...I've read some threads, watched some YouTube, read some things in a few books.

It has to be more complicated than this:

Bring up my HLT water for the HERMS coil to a degree or two above my desired mash temp, heat sparge water in the BK and then pump it into the mash tun. Probably push it through the coil a bit to make up for the lost heat in the MLT.

Dump/stir grain into the mash water. Pump at a sloooooow rate through the HERMS coil for an hour (or longer depending on the recipe). At the end of the mash time, raise the temp to 165 or 170 and run the wort into the kettle. Pump water from the HLT into the MLT to batch sparge until I hit my preboil volume.

Boil until I hit desired post boil volume adding hops along the way.

Chill, aerate, pitch.

Is it really that simple?

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Anything can be simple if you're prepared to throw that much cash at it!

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Anything can be simple if you're prepared to throw that much cash at it!
+1! That machine is a thing of beauty and I hope to one day be a proud owner of one! Even with a cooler for a mash tun and a pot that barely fits my stove, it's not hard though.
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+1! That machine is a thing of beauty and I hope to one day be a proud owner of one! Even with a cooler for a mash tun and a pot that barely fits my stove, it's not hard though.
You two obviously didn't look at the link in my sig line. I bought this thing beat up and in desperate need of copious amounts of TLC. It was bad enough the RIMS tube wasn't worth salvaging and most of the plumbing needed to be replaced. It's a far cry from the new systems.

Yes, I did invest some decent cash getting it to where it is, but the cost of going this route was almost the same as building the recirculating BIAB system I was working up.

I got tired of doing 5 gallon extract batches with a turkey fryer aluminum pot and propane.
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Of course it's simple. People managed to do it thousands of years ago, and they were hella dumb back then.

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Of course it's simple. People managed to do it thousands of years ago, and they were hella dumb back then.
Well, yeah...but there's the iodine tests for conversion, quarts per pound of grain, protein rests, etc...I just want to brew beer for the first batch. I like to tinker...it's why I brew and reload my own rifle ammunition, etc, but I just want to brew a batch of beer and see how the process goes the first time through.
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I think it's simple.

BTW, I've been to Lititz. Small world.

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Well, yeah...but there's the iodine tests for conversion,
Don't worry about that. Mash for an hour and you'll be converted. Most likely well before that, but if you're worried, leave it an hour and forget the iodine test.

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quarts per pound of grain,
Don't worry about that. Anywhere between 1 and 2 qts per pound and there is a world class brewer out there using the same water/grist ratio.

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protein rests,
Don't worry about that. Plenty of people have never done a protein rest in their life. Nowhere near as important with the highly modified malts we have today as it was back in the day.

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etc...I just want to brew beer for the first batch. I like to tinker...it's why I brew and reload my own rifle ammunition, etc, but I just want to brew a batch of beer and see how the process goes the first time through.
You'll be fine.
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I think it's simple.

BTW, I've been to Lititz. Small world.
It's a nice place in the world and I enjoy my small piece of it near the airport up on a hill with some deer that run through the woods on the edge of the yard.

Clearwater is where the Phillies do their spring training, I believe.

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Don't worry about that. Mash for an hour and you'll be converted. Most likely well before that, but if you're worried, leave it an hour and forget the iodine test.
Didn't think I needed one. Recipe says to mash for 60 minutes.

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Don't worry about that. Anywhere between 1 and 2 qts per pound and there is a world class brewer out there using the same water/grist ratio.
That's what I've been reading, mostly 1.25, 1.33, or 1.5 quarts/lb.

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Don't worry about that. Plenty of people have never done a protein rest in their life. Nowhere near as important with the highly modified malts we have today as it was back in the day.
Also read that, too. Didn't think it was necessary.


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You'll be fine.
Figured it wouldn't be that bad.

Just wanted to make sure this simple seeming process in my head wasn't going to blow my mind on Saturday morning.
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