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Old 12-09-2008, 11:28 AM   #1
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Default Quality of the grind from online HBS

I just got my first online order from MoreBeer and I am disappointed to say the least with the grind. To me, it looks like between 1/3 and 1/2 the kernels are still whole. I've always used my LHBS, but they are over an hour away and their prices have always seemed a bit stiff, so I thought I'd try MoreBeer, but I'm not sure it's worth the driving convenience and cost savings if I get a crappy grind and can't get the good stuff out of my grain. The specialty malts are ground better than the base malt, but I need to get the goodness out of the base malts. At least my LHBS always gave a great grind.

Have others had this trouble with MoreBeer? Do any of the others do better?

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Old 12-09-2008, 11:34 AM   #2
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I once tried grains from MoreBeer, and also Northern Brewer. Both grinds were terrible and produced efficiency a full 10% below what I was getting with LHBS crushed grains. It seems to be a pretty common complaint about crushed grain from online vendors.

I've since invested in a Barley Crusher and don't have to worry about that anymore.

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Old 12-09-2008, 02:52 PM   #3
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I have also heard a lot about getting a terrible crush from on line vendors. I would say with a fair amount of confidence that there are very few vendors that would purposely give a customer poorly crushed grains. It is just poor customer service to purposely give a customer crushed grains that are not properly crushed. Anyone that has been brewing all grain for a while knows the range of efficiency to expect from their brewery and would quickly figure out that the crush is to blame. That would kill repeat business.

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I have also heard a lot about getting a terrible crush from on line vendors. I would say with a fair amount of confidence that there are very few vendors that would purposely give a customer poorly crushed grains. It is just poor customer service to purposely give a customer crushed grains that are not properly crushed. Anyone that has been brewing all grain for a while knows the range of efficiency to expect from their brewery and would quickly figure out that the crush is to blame. That would kill repeat business.

See, my theory is that you guys are trying to get us to buy either more grain or a grain mill....
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Old 12-09-2008, 02:59 PM   #5
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Barring buying your own grain mill, you should find a different source. I have always gotten at least 75% efficiency (great crush) with Austin Homebrew, their service is great and shipping is a fixed cost. * I am in no way affiliated with Austin Homebrew *

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Old 12-09-2008, 03:02 PM   #6
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See, my theory is that you guys are trying to get us to buy either more grain or a grain mill....
I can see that possibly happening, but after it happened 1 time it got put on a forum, and now can be blasted be everyone. It is quite possible that the OP will never buy from them again, which is not worth a couple of extra pounds of grain ($5 additional dollars in revenue).

I can tell you that all of our grains are crushed using a Barley Crusher, and then visually inspected before being packaged to ship. We use what we sell. It takes longer than some other mills, but it gives a great crush, and we can stand by the quality of our crush, and the mills that we sell. Before you ask we use the default gap setting which has received a lot of positive comments on HBT.
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You know I was being sarcastic, right?

You know what I'm interested in? You're using the BC in a commercial setting; I'd be interested to hear how well it holds up for you over a long period of time. I love my BC, but obviously it doesn't get used nearly as much as yours will. Be interesting to hear if it holds up well for you, since I think some of its competitors have claimed that it's not as robust as theirs.

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You know I was being sarcastic, right?

You know what I'm interested in? You're using the BC in a commercial setting; I'd be interested to hear how well it holds up for you over a long period of time. I love my BC, but obviously it doesn't get used nearly as much as yours will. Be interesting to hear if it holds up well for you, since I think some of its competitors have claimed that it's not as robust as theirs.
Bird you are so respected that I can see a newb thinking that is the case.

Now that is sarcasm.


I will let you know how it holds up over the long haul. Really do not think I will have any issues beyond the normal maintenance.
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If you brew a lot then go for a 2 roller mill as they do a better job of not making too much flour in the grist and they are faster and a more uniform crush too.

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