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Old 02-15-2011, 01:29 PM   #1
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Yesterday I finaly got to brew on my new system. My RIMS tube worked great bringing my mash temp back up after undershooting it, and kept everything perfect.
The problem I had was my propane tank and regulator were freezing up. My new stand has banjo burners, I never ran them at the same time. The propane is plumbed through the stand to each burner (it's one of Marcus' stands). When I was trying to get the boil going, the flame kept going down. I could not belive the frost that was on the side of the tank and the regulator. I had to keep shaking it around to get the propane flowing again to keep a good boil going.
I did a search, and came up with a bunch of different things, but no one said anything that worked to stop it from freezing.
What have you guys/girls done to stop this?
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Old 02-15-2011, 01:36 PM   #2
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IMHO it sounds like the regulator is running too high. A too fast release of pressured gas causes cooling. I have two 60k burners running off one 10psi regulator.

What type of regulator do you have

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IMHO it sounds like the regulator is running too high. A too fast release of pressured gas causes cooling. I have two 60k burners running off one 10psi regulator.

What type of regulator do you have
To be honest, I am not sure. It is the one that was sent with my stand, so I assumed it was the correct one. I will have to check it later.
I tried adjusting the knob on the regulator but it did not do anything.
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How cold was it outside? You can put the propane tank in a big tub of warm water to help keep the temps up a bit.

Other than that, you may just be running the regulator a bit too high as stated above.

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The other factor, do you know when your tank was filled? The mixture from the bulk distributors usually varies a bit from summer to winter. Winter mix in most cases has a higher vaporization rate than does summer mix. They mix propane with various other hydrocarbons such a butane to alter the vaporization rates. When it freezes up, it is basically caused by demanding more propane be drawn from the tank than can be vaporized.

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How cold was it outside? You can put the propane tank in a big tub of warm water to help keep the temps up a bit.

Other than that, you may just be running the regulator a bit too high as stated above.
It was almost 50* out. Today it is back down to 20*.
I was trying to lower the dial but it wasn't reaslly doing anything.
I wonder if I got a bad regulator.

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The other factor, do you know when your tank was filled? The mixture from the bulk distributors usually varies a bit from summer to winter. Winter mix in most cases has a higher vaporization rate than does summer mix. They mix propane with various other hydrocarbons such a butane to alter the vaporization rates. When it freezes up, it is basically caused by demanding more propane be drawn from the tank than can be vaporized.
That I didn't know, but it was filled in November i think.
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I was trying to lower the dial but it wasn't reaslly doing anything.
I wonder if I got a bad regulator.
So it's not the temp then, you can always swap the regulator out to see if that's it. Got a turkey fryer? Or stop at a big box store and pick one up, you can always return it if that's not the culprit.
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also, double check to make sure you aren't feeding a low pressure burner with a high pressure regulator. If you are using a needle valve controlled burner, I personally prefer a non adjustable regulator like is used on a grill so that there is only one gas adjustment to have to mess with. If this is the case and you are using a low pressure burner, you can probably steal the regulator off of your gas grill if you have one for testing purposes.

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That I didn't know, but it was filled in November i think.
most definitely not the mix then.
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I find if the tank is <1/3 full it'll freeze up more in cold weather. I'll second the tub of warm water, or at least 50F when it's cold out.

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