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Old 01-18-2012, 04:03 AM   #11
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The brett character is strong for an "old ale" in the usual sense, but whatever it is, I think it's damned tasty. Bierhaus feels differently, it seems, so who knows which side of the fence you'll fall on. A lot of it might depend upon your expectations.
I'm not unhappy about the beer, it is very tasty and I've been enjoying drinking and sharing the few bottles that I have left of it. My problem was that the beer turned out to be a bit more 'Belgian' in flavor than what I was expecting. I think much of that comes from the brett (lots of cherry juice and old port/sherry flavors) without much of the amber and brown malt character I was hoping for. My beer wasn't bad at all, it just isn't the English Old Ale I was hoping to make.

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what would you use?
Honestly, I don't know what would work best. I would like the sacc yeast to be a bit more 'robust' in flavor and I'd imagine any malty English strain would be a better choice. As for the brett, I was surprised to hear that Wyeast recommended using Brett L instead of C, as it is not the traditional brett used in these types of beers. However, a good friend of mine used the 9097 yeast in a pale 'strong' beer - just pale malt and some wheat and low hopping, and the beer turned out absolutely wonderful. The fruitiness of the brett in such a pale beer was really superb. Had I not known what yeast was used, I would have said the beer was Belgian strong with brett. I have heard other people say they had better results with this yeast in paler beers than the darker ones too.


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Good call on posting in "wild brewing". heres the new post: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f127/planning-old-ale-questions-about-brett-295821/#post3677882
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I've had good results with the claussenii strain. It is a bit milder than some of the others and a good place to start.

An possible strategy would be to pull a gallon or two off of secondary and pitch a couple of different strains. If one stands out rack it into the bulk, and blend in the others later on.
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My problem was that the beer turned out to be a bit more 'Belgian' in flavor than what I was expecting. I think much of that comes from the brett (lots of cherry juice and old port/sherry flavors)
That's a fair assessment. Mine came out much the same, but it's so good I don't really care! That, and I didn't really know what to expect from it to begin with. Yes, I've had beers marketed under the "old ale" moniker, but none with a significant amount of brett, so I knew mine would be different. I was surprised to hear that brett L is what they used in 9097 as well, but given the flavor profile we all got, I suppose it isn't surprising from that perspective.
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Most Old Ales don't have brett in them nowadays. The only one that I know that still is made in the traditional ways of blending old and young beer is Green King Old Suffolk. It's pasteurized of course.
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I'm ramping up to do this brew soon! I have my vial of White labs Brett C, Black strap molasses, a beer building a yeast cake of WL005 and an empty fermenter. Im hoping to brew next weekend.

Side note: On friday night I attended "winterfest" in St Paul, MN. It was a showing of many of the best craft brews that Minnesota has to offer. I was pleasantly surprised to see several sour/brett beers on tap. Rock Bottom even had a Brett IPA! super tasty stuff. made me even more excited for this Olde Ale.


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