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Lordsoth · 05-01-2010, 01:37 PM

Batch Size: 5.25 gal
Boil Size: 6.50 gal
Estimated OG: 1.034 SG
Estimated Color: 7.2 SRM
Estimated IBU: 32.7 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 80.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
5.00 lb Thomas Fawcett Golden Promise (2.7 SRM) Grain 83.33 %
0.50 lb Amber Malt (22.0 SRM) Grain 8.33 %
0.50 lb Simpsons Medium Crystal (55.0 SRM) Grain 8.33 %
0.50 oz Goldings, East Kent [7.20 %] (60 min) (FiHops 15.7 IBU
0.50 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (20 min) Hops 6.0 IBU
0.50 oz Fuggles [4.00 %] (15 min) Hops 3.9 IBU
0.50 oz Goldings, East Kent [7.20 %] (15 min) Hops 7.1 IBU
0.50 oz Fuggles [4.00 %] (0 min) Hops -
0.50 oz Goldings, East Kent [7.20 %] (0 min) Hops -
1 Pkgs English Ale (White Labs #WLP002) [800ml starter]

This beer turned out great! Only about 3% ABV but chock full of flavor. Caramel and bready flavors some mild fruity esters and a nice earthy quality from the fuggles with a well balanced finish. I can't exactly pinpoint what the EKG brought to the table, but I'm quite happy with the overall result.

For some reason it didn't clear up though, even with 1 week cold crash. Everything I've read says WLP002 should flocculate right out. It's not chill haze either, as the beer is cloudy whether warm or cold. What could have caused it to be so cloudy? I did the same thing I do with all my beers and they all came out nice and clear. The only thing I didn't do was use Irish Moss. Does Irish Moss really make that much of a difference?

**Laughing_Gnome_Invisible** · 05-01-2010, 01:50 PM

Looks nice! It makes a nice change to see someone else brewing low grav.

The Goldings are more subtle than the Fuggles. I tend to use only one or the other for the aroma hop for that reason. As for clarity, I always use whirlfloc for my bitters, and they always come out crystal clear. Maybe it was the cold crashing that caused the haze? I dunno.

barleynhops · 05-01-2010, 01:54 PM

The Irish Moss does make a difference wrt proteins. If you didn't add it, they'll stay in suspension for awhile. Just keep in mind that in most cases, time clears all beers.

Lordsoth · 05-01-2010, 04:37 PM

Thanks for the replies. The clarity issue doesn't really bother me since it tastes so good, but I was just curious why the difference between this and my other few beers (APA, IPA, Cream Ale) which were all crystal clear. Now that they have been conditioning for 3 weeks and fully carbed, I'm gonna stick them in my fridge for a few weeks to see if that haze will drop out at all. All I know is I'll never forget to use a clarifying agent again, lol.

**Laughing_Gnome_Invisible** · 05-01-2010, 04:44 PM

I find that keeping my bottled bitter in the fridge after it is conditioned actually gives it a chill haze whereas the unrefrigerated bottles remain clear. I keep mine at room temp and pour it in a chilled glass to get it at around 55F.

BuzzCraft · 05-01-2010, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Laughing_Gnome_Invisible

I find that keeping my bottled bitter in the fridge after it is conditioned actually gives it a chill haze whereas the unrefrigerated bottles remain clear. I keep mine at room temp and pour it in a chilled glass to get it at around 55F.

if you leave it in the fridge long enough (difficult to do, i know!), the proteins/polyphenols causing chill haze will drop out. often takes weeks, tho.

Lordsoth · 05-20-2010, 11:50 PM

Strange, I've had this beer in the fridge for three weeks now. Looks exactly the same as when I put it in. Cloudy. It's not sediment, mind you, or other "floaties." Just cloudy. Never had a beer not clear up after 3 weeks in the fridge....and 6 weeks since I bottled.

**ghack** · 05-21-2010, 12:40 PM

The use finings is perfectly acceptable in British beers. Hit it with some gelatin and it will clear right up.

**Laughing_Gnome_Invisible** · 05-21-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lordsoth

Strange, I've had this beer in the fridge for three weeks now. Looks exactly the same as when I put it in. Cloudy. It's not sediment, mind you, or other "floaties." Just cloudy. Never had a beer not clear up after 3 weeks in the fridge....and 6 weeks since I bottled.

Send it to me. I have a couple of kidneys that will filter it nicely.

lucasszy · 05-21-2010, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BuzzCraft

if you leave it in the fridge long enough (difficult to do, i know!), the proteins/polyphenols causing chill haze will drop out. often takes weeks, tho.

+1 in keeping it in the fridge extra long. I've had hefes drop out and get completely clear doing this!