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Old 01-22-2013, 07:02 PM   #41
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I made my first hard cider in 2010 for $12.00 with Great Value (Wal-Mart brand) apple juice concentrates. Turned out great.

I've since upped the quality by using White House apple juice, but still come in around $16.00 for 5 gallons, including a packet of Nottingham or S-05.

I buy most of my beer grain and hops in bulk, but don't reuse yeast, and routinely come in right around $18-22 for most 5 gallon batches.

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Old 01-22-2013, 07:05 PM   #42
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For a good quality beer that's very drinkable, buying grain and hops in bulk and reusing yeast is the way to save money.

I can make 10 gallons of cream ale for $16! Propane isn't that expensive, especially if you use just enough to make the beer. A sack of base grain is $35 for 50 pounds.

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7 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 4 75.0 %
1 lbs Corn, Flaked (1.0 SRM) Grain 5 10.0 %
8.0 oz Biscuit Malt (23.0 SRM) Grain 6 5.0 %
8.0 oz Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 7 5.0 %
8.0 oz Wheat Malt, Pale (2.0 SRM) Grain 8 5.0 %

0.75 oz Cluster [7.50 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 9 19.5 IBUs (or any bittering hop to get 19 IBUs)
0.50 oz Saaz [3.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 11 2.0 IBUs (or hallertauer, homegrown, or any other noble hop variety)
0.50 oz Saaz [3.50 %] - Aroma Steep 5.0 min Hop 12 0.0 IBUs (Or hallertauer, homegrown, or any other noble hop variety

Clean well-attenuating ale yeast (nottingham, S05, WLP001, Wyeast 1056, whatever you have)

I use homegrown hops for this, but it's really great with the saaz, if you have some leftover from a Bohemian pilsner recipe!

Flaked rice (like Minute Rice) is great to sub for the flaked corn, if you have a pound of Minute Rice left over.

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Old 01-22-2013, 07:08 PM   #43
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SMaSH ordinary bitter, subbing bulk 2-row for M.O., single 60 min (bulk) hop addition, reused/harvested yeast.

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Old 01-22-2013, 07:27 PM   #44
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Cheapest 24 I can but at the NSLC is 42 bucks. Even Cooper's kits and LME and an ounce or 2 of fresh hops blow that out of the water. I made a 2.5 gallon all grain ESB for 11 dollars on my stove. $11 for a 24 of beer sounds good to me. The $ saved will go towards a bigger pot and bigger biab batches, eventually. If you're Canadian, you can make good beer, including equipment costs, a lot cheaper than you can buy it.

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Old 01-22-2013, 08:05 PM   #45
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I think the burning question of the day is why and how people spend 50 bucks for a batch when they can make great beer for 10 bucks

Of course I like to make a dime think it is a dollar whenever I can
I make $50 batches and $10 batches and believe me .... They ain't even close to each other...lol
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:13 PM   #46
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Each beer has its time and place and everyones taste is different. I love micro/homebrew but sometimes I just want a high life.

Just because I enjoy steak ddoesnt mean I can't enjoy a hot bowl of ramen noodles.

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Old 01-22-2013, 09:14 PM   #47
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Not possible.

Even when doing a bulk grain buy(35ish a sack of 2 row), using minimal hops bought in bulk, minimal specialty grains and adjuncts, and yeast washing, slanting ect....the cost of DME for starters, propane(this is a big one), water(if you dont filter), star san, cleaners, caps, ect will put you over that limit quickly. Thats not even considering amortizing equipment costs.
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Ingredients-wise, once amortizing yeast reuses over 5 batches (so .50 per batch), base grain at .40c/lb (so $3.60 for 9lbs) and maybe a buck fifty for a specialty grain lb, then light hops, 2oz's at $1.50 each. That's what, $8.60.

No cost for DME because who needs a starter when re-using yeast? No one. Starsan when bought in the 32oz size lasts...forever! So cents on that one per batch, no cost for any other cleaners.

I use electricity which costs maaaaybe a buck for a brew, maybe. Water is essentially free from the tap. So, $9.60?

So under $10 including the electricity costs for a beer around 5%, 5 gallons or maybe a bit more final volume.

Keg it, spend cents worth of CO2 to carb and done.

Equipment cost is another ball of wax, of course.
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I make $50 batches and $10 batches and believe me .... They ain't even close to each other...lol
Yup you are right. I have had some downright terrible 50 dollar batches and some outstanding 10 dollar batches. If more money cured everything then I would agree with you but come on we are talking a house beer here or I guess the better term is a session beer.
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J I pay .35 a lb for 2 row .41 a lb for specialty.
How is this possible? Do you buy it directly from the malt producers?! I've never found specialty for under $.85/lb even in bulk group buys.
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Another nice beer that I do that is inexpensive is a brown beer but it comes in around 15 bucks for 6 gallons

8 pd 2 row
1 pd crystal 60
4 oz chocolate malt (420 srm)
1.5 oz black barley (500 srm)

153 degree mash

1 oz kent goldings 60 min
.25 liberty 15 min
.25 williamette 10 min
.25 liberty

I use a coopers yeast harvested and it is a right tasty beer

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