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Old 05-15-2007, 09:04 PM   #1
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Default My american wheat tastes like Budweiser?

So i have just started AG. Tried an american wheat.

6 lbs english white wheat
6 lbs pearl malt (kinda like maris otter)
2 oz hallertauer at 60 min (3.2 %AA whole leaf)
.5 oz centennial at 5 min (9.4 %AA pellets)

1.060 OG
1.010 FG
1056 yeast at 70-73 *F

finished fermenting in about 2 days. Racked from primary into keg after 10 days total. Pulled a pint about 8 days after that.

So tasting the first pint it tastes just like budweiser. I assume this is a certain flaw and i just dont know what to contribute it to. It basically has that wierd after taste that budweiser has.

Any ideas? fermented too warm?

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Old 05-15-2007, 09:08 PM   #2
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That could be it, but it's probably just a pretty green beer. Give it a few more weeks before you get too worried about it. I've had plenty of beers that weren't so great earlier on, and became magnificent months later.

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Old 05-15-2007, 09:10 PM   #3
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Hmmm, interesting. Several observations, if I may...

1. There's no wheat malt in Buttwiper.
2. If it tastes like Buttwiper then there is a flaw. But this is HB so there are no flaws....
3. Let me presume you are fairly new to HBing and your taste buds have not been properly educated.
4. Could be some harsh bitterness on your tongue.
5. Let it age some and the flavor will only get better.

Enjoy it.

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Old 05-15-2007, 09:25 PM   #4
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yeah, i agree, there is no wheat in buttwiper as you put it. buttwiper is also not an ale, its a lager, so there are plenty of differences. i am not claiming to have made a bud clone.

Its mostly the after taste that matches bud.

Arent wheats supposed to be drank very green?

What is the descriptor for the nasty aftertaste of bud?

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Old 05-15-2007, 09:35 PM   #5
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Finished fermenting in 2 days? Holy cow... there would have had to have been some high temps involved. I say this because most yeasts, especially liquids, even with starters, will lag about 12 hours. That is a ferocious ferment, Id have to think there are some off flavors in there from that sort of activity.

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Old 05-15-2007, 09:37 PM   #6
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It was fermented on a large yeast cake.....

But i was mostly afraid of infection or else the fast ferment at high temps.

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It sounds to me what you are tasting is the green apple or bruised apple character of acetaldehyde. This is a common byproduct of yeast fermenting at warmer temperatures in green beer. It is also a characteristic flavor in Bud but to a lesser degree. As others have said, let it age a bit.

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yeah, i agree, there is no wheat in buttwiper as you put it. buttwiper is also not an ale, its a lager, so there are plenty of differences. i am not claiming to have made a bud clone.

Its mostly the after taste that matches bud.

Arent wheats supposed to be drank very green?

What is the descriptor for the nasty aftertaste of bud?
Don't know. I haven't had an American Buttwiper since '75. I have had many Czech Budvars since then.
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It sounds to me what you are tasting is the green apple or bruised apple character of acetaldehyde. This is a common byproduct of yeast fermenting at warmer temperatures in green beer. It is also a characteristic flavor in Bud but to a lesser degree. As others have said, let it age a bit.

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Yes. Yeast make acetaldehyde on the way too making alcohol. If this is the taste you are getting then some time alone with the yeast will cure the problem.
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Old 05-16-2007, 11:26 PM   #10
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Bummer. 5 hours worth of brewing and cleanup and you end up with Budweiser. Oh well, don't feel bad, my first AG tasted like vomit.

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