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Old 12-09-2008, 04:34 AM   #1
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I will be moving to AG in the new year, and am an ambitious brewer. I realize my limitations at the moment but in the long term am ambitious.

So my question is this, When buying brew pots, coolers for mash tuns, etc, price is relatively similar among brewing for 5 gallon batches to 15 gallon batches. I have 3 primary glass carboys on hand at the moment, so 15 gallons split 3 ways would not be terribly out of hand.

I am thinking that while I am buying coolers for mash tuns/pots for brewpots etc, why not get ones I can work with 15G batches? Is this a terrible idea? Are there considerations im not factoring in? Any input would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 12-09-2008, 04:47 AM   #2
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15 g is alot of brew, i think you would be happier brewing three 5 gal batches

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Old 12-09-2008, 04:57 AM   #3
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I am not necessarily preparing to brew 15G off the bat, but i would rather have the capacity to do so for a few dollars more then repeatedly buying pots/mash tuns to upgrade. I would also be interested in doing 3x5G batches with diffrent yeasts, or diffrent dry hops someday.

Basically, is it worth the initial minor investment to offset the eventual upgrading I perceive? What have you guys done?

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Old 12-09-2008, 05:04 AM   #4
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I'm kind of in your position. I bought all my equipment to do 5 gallon all grain batches. Now I wish I had the capacity to do 10 gallon batches.

15 gallons is getting up there though.

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Old 12-09-2008, 05:16 AM   #5
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Yea, no doubt 15G is very high. But eventually Id like to buy a 15G conical and not have to buy the rest of the **** to work with it.

At this moment 10G's is the goal, with 5 G's for experimental recipes and 15 for tried and true recipes. Like i say my consideration is that the price dif from 5-10 or 10-15 is not significant past the initial investment. So would having equipment bigger then whats needed for the brew, IE a 5G in 15 capable equipment, have poor results?

Also what size cooler is ideal for 15G MLT? I know that im asking alot, but I appreciate everyones help

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Old 12-09-2008, 12:29 PM   #6
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In my opinion it's a good decision to go with a 15G system... because sooner than later you will be wanting to move up. You can always do 5G batches for a while (and I would just to dial things in).

If you don't buy it now, you'll probably just end up buying it next year and spending the money all over again.

As for the size of MLT you need: Green Bay Rackers--Mash Calculators scroll down to "Can I Mash It"

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Old 12-09-2008, 12:33 PM   #7
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If you have the space to do 15g, it just makes financial sense to me to buy equipment that can be used in the future to realise your ambitions.

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Old 12-09-2008, 12:53 PM   #8
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My simple brewing procedures allow me to brew 1/4 kegs (7.75 gal) batches. I've thought about going larger but don't really see the need. 15 gal. batches and larger starts to necessitate more advanced techniques like pumps, bigger chillers, fermentation temp. controls etc. etc., which I don't really have the desire to get into right now.

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You need to look at your consumption. If you have a bunch of friends over on a regular basis where 5 gallons will literally disappear in one night, yes, 15g makes sense. In my house, I'd be lucky to float a 5 gallon keg in 2 months. Why? Because I have 5 taps on my kegger and I'm the only one that drinks out of it 95% of the time. Frankly, I get tired of the same beer by the time I'm on gallon 7 of a 10 gallon batch.

If you're goal is to brew the most beer with the least amount of effort, bigger is always better. I think 10g is the sweet spot for most. It's still manageable for 5 gallon experimental/specialty batches and capable of 10g when you find your house recipes for mass consumption.

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You need to look at your consumption. If you have a bunch of friends over ........Blah blah blah.....yuddah yuddah.....
You know? I had NEVER EVER considered the faintest notion of the merest possibilty that I could brew more than I could drink!!........

I'll have to sit down and consider that concept!.......

Nope! Impossible! What you talkin' about, Willis?
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