*Ss Brewing Technologies Giveaway - Enter Now!*

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing > Max Efficiency: Braided hose vs. copper manifold?
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 07-14-2010, 01:38 PM   #1
Zeppman
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: chicago
Posts: 319
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts
Likes Given: 4

Default Max Efficiency: Braided hose vs. copper manifold?

Hey everyone,

What's a better way (more efficient) to separate the liquid form the grains in my igloo cooler? Right now I have the braided hose, but will a copper manifold work better?

Thanks!

__________________
Zeppman is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-14-2010, 02:16 PM   #2
Malticulous
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: St. George Utah
Posts: 4,126
Liked 56 Times on 47 Posts
Likes Given: 74

Default

If you batch sparging it will make zero difference (if dead space is the same.) If your fly sparging you really should have a more complex manifold than a braid. With batch sparging the whole run off is the same gravity regardless.

__________________
Malticulous is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-14-2010, 02:30 PM   #3
Zeppman
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: chicago
Posts: 319
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts
Likes Given: 4

Default

Well I batch sparge 90% of the time... so thanks!

__________________
Zeppman is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-14-2010, 02:32 PM   #4
HalfPint
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,823
Liked 13 Times on 12 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Conroe View Post
If you batch sparging it will make zero difference (if dead space is the same.) If your fly sparging you really should have a more complex manifold than a braid. With batch sparging the whole run off is the same gravity regardless.
Agreed.

I've had both, and I really prefer my manifold simply b/c it tends to run off a bit faster than the braid. If it was a matter of price and ease, braid wins hands down.
__________________
HalfPint is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-14-2010, 02:52 PM   #5
JJL
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: , WI
Posts: 1,279
Liked 30 Times on 23 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

Yep, for batch sparging, IMO, the braid is the way to go. Much cheaper and easier to build, and your efficiency will be the same.

__________________
JJL is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-14-2010, 03:09 PM   #6
brettwasbtd
Awesomeness Award Winnner
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
brettwasbtd's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Damascus, MD
Posts: 1,371
Liked 41 Times on 37 Posts
Likes Given: 69

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JJL View Post
Yep, for batch sparging, IMO, the braid is the way to go. Much cheaper and easier to build, and your efficiency will be the same.
Cheaper if compared to a copper manifold, but not a CPVC. I made the inside manifold for my MLT out of CPVC for probably around $3. The braids I looked at were a lot more expensive
__________________
Shegogue Brew | Pronounced "Shuh·goo" | http://shegoguebrew.blogspot.com | BJCP Certified Judge B0999
brettwasbtd is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-14-2010, 04:39 PM   #7
geneullerysmith
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Traverse City, MI
Posts: 17
Default

+1 CPVC. Very cheap and simple to assemble. A couple bucks, a saw and 20 minutes. Easy.

__________________
geneullerysmith is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-14-2010, 04:58 PM   #8
Zeppman
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: chicago
Posts: 319
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts
Likes Given: 4

Default

Would a CPVC manifold benefit batch sparging? what size holes or cuts do you put in the manifold?

__________________
Zeppman is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-14-2010, 05:06 PM   #9
brettwasbtd
Awesomeness Award Winnner
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
brettwasbtd's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Damascus, MD
Posts: 1,371
Liked 41 Times on 37 Posts
Likes Given: 69

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeppman View Post
Would a CPVC manifold benefit batch sparging? what size holes or cuts do you put in the manifold?
With batch sparging, the design really doesnt matter. A manifold will allow you try fly sparging if you you ever choose to do so. I used a dremel tool to cut slits in the CPVC tubing about every inch or so. I also Drilled one, 1/16" hole in the corner of all my 90 degree elbows. Here is what mine looks like



its about 4 1/2" wide and sites in a 9" coleman cooler. Done 3 all grains, batch sparge, haven't used rice hulls and haven't had a stuck sparge. Used 30% adjucts on one of the beers.
__________________
Shegogue Brew | Pronounced "Shuh·goo" | http://shegoguebrew.blogspot.com | BJCP Certified Judge B0999
brettwasbtd is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-14-2010, 05:16 PM   #10
Zeppman
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: chicago
Posts: 319
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts
Likes Given: 4

Default

Sorry for the stupid question, but can someone tell me why it won't make a difference for batch sparging? I know "dead space" and "gravity" was described before, but I'm not quite following...

__________________
Zeppman is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply



Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
braided hose or plastic manifold????? lokiua4 All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 14 04-22-2010 09:19 PM
Braided supply hose or copper John Long All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 38 08-19-2009 11:07 PM
Braided hose or Manifold? Which is better? Beavdowg All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 45 05-25-2009 05:18 PM
Polarware, Efficiency, Copper Manifold thomcat333 All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 7 11-18-2007 04:16 PM
Braided Hose trubador All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 11 05-09-2007 08:11 PM