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Old 02-17-2006, 02:59 AM   #21
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Could you expand on your comments a little and give some examples.
Where I disagree with Palmer is his point about the fixed 10 degree delta temp between fermentation and lagering, and also the decreased lager times required is using higher temps in the secondary.

The BYO article first states 40*F as the upper end of lagering temp without associating it with fermentation temp, and then quotes Noonan (conveniently) mentioning that lagering times are to be linked with alc% rather than temp.

My own experience parallels the above.
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Old 02-17-2006, 03:07 AM   #22
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What you call it and how you categorize it doesn't really matter unless you are in a comp. and worried about judges and style.
It also matters when you are trying to describe your beer accurately to others or when sharing information on forums like this. It serves no purpose to give a 'noob' misleading guidelines.

I hate style n*zis as much as the next guy, but it doesn't hurt to describe things accurately.

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Old 02-17-2006, 03:21 AM   #23
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I hate style n*zis as much as the next guy, but it doesn't hurt to describe things accurately.
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Old 02-18-2006, 12:54 AM   #24
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i agree 100%. educate and then play with the realm of possibilities!

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Well, then call it lager like beer. What he is after, is a cleanly fermented beer which is a characteristic of lager beers. There are many good Ale yeasts out there that can get you close to this.

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I agree. I made a lager like beer using SafeAle 56 yeast, which is a very clean yeast. It turned out quite well. Fermented at about 70.
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I agree. I made a lager like beer using SafeAle 56 yeast, which is a very clean yeast. It turned out quite well. Fermented at about 70.
Why would you describe it as a lager like beer rather than a light ale ( like a Koelsch)?
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Why would you describe it as a lager like beer rather than a light ale ( like a Koelsch)?
Because I didn't know any better? lol.
I really wasn't sure what to call it when I made it.
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It also matters when you are trying to describe your beer accurately to others or when sharing information on forums like this. It serves no purpose to give a 'noob' misleading guidelines.

I hate style n*zis as much as the next guy, but it doesn't hurt to describe things accurately.

BTW <- what kind of smiley is this? A Weizenguy maybe ?
All valid points well explained, Cheers.
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