Just starting out and need advice!

LisanMatt · 03-18-2010, 10:33 PM

Hello everyone!

We have been brewing all extract recipes for quite a while now and we want to graduate to all grain brewing. We’ve done quite a lot of research and have the basic idea how to brew from all-grain and what the necessary equipment is. From what we’ve gathered, you can spend thousands on equipment – or you can use a couple enamel pots, and some Tupperware or a cooler. We want to make good, consistent, beer; and we are willing to invest some money to do this. At the same time I don’t want to go overboard and buy something for hundreds of dollars – when I could have made it cheaply at home with little to no affect on the beer’s quality (and to note Matt is extremely mechanically inclined so anything that can be made at home he can likely make). If anyone can give us some advice and/or their take on using high quality vs cheap and/or homemade please help!!

Thanks!

**Pappers_** · 03-18-2010, 11:30 PM

Hi. You can certainly buy/build brew stands and rigs, semi-automated, etc. But they are not at all necessary to brew very good all-grain hand-made beer. On the other end of the continuum is the stove-top brew-in-a-bag method.

If you are looking for the middle ground, the equipment you need (in addition to what you already have for extract brewing) includes:

1. A brew pot big enough to boil 7 gallons - so you probably want around 10 gallon capacity, but some use smaller.

2. A stove powerful enough to heat that much water/wort - most purchase an outdoor propane stove like a Bayou, but some also go with less expensive hardware store turkey fryers. You'll find lots of threads about burners in the equipment sub forum.

3. A mash tun. An easy do-it-yourself project is to convert an igloo beverage cooler into a mash tun. There is a sticky thread on how to do it.

4. A wort chiller (with full boils, sitting the pot in an ice bath just isn't practical for most people). An immersion chiller made out of copper tubing is the standard and another straightforward DIY project. Again, I believe there is a sticky thread on how to do it.

If you buy or make these pieces of equipment, you will have the necessities to make high quality all-grain beer. Of course, there are a million other items, like a fermentation chamber, a refractometer, kegging outfit, etc. that might enhance your brewing experience. But the four items I listed are above are what you *need* imho.

Cheers!

**Nurmey** · 03-18-2010, 11:34 PM

Welcome to HBT!

This is the thread I used to make my mash tun. Other than big pots, burner, and chiller it's all you need.
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f51/cheap-easy-10-gallon-rubbermaid-mlt-conversion-23008/

**Pappers_** · 03-18-2010, 11:41 PM

Links that might be helpful:

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f51/cheap-easy-10-gallon-rubbermaid-mlt-conversion-23008/

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f51/simple-immersion-wort-chiller-33036/
Also, in the list above, I didn't include a grain mill, because it is not necessary - you can buy your grain pre-milled. But, the grain mill is a great piece of equipment to have, I think. I recommend that you plan on getting one.

Hope the lnks help!

Edit: what he said ^^^

**Yooper** · 03-18-2010, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pappers

Edit: what he said ^^^

Or, what she said. Either way.

**kappclark** · 03-18-2010, 11:48 PM

The cooler conversion is a fun and worthwhile project. It's just one example how brewers on this forum share expertise and keep us noobies from trying to reinvent the wheel.

My cooler is still going strong after 3 years

**Pappers_** · 03-19-2010, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YooperBrew

Or, what she said. Either way.

LOL! I never noticed - I must have been too busy belching and scratching! My apologies, Nurmey. Mea Culpa.

**wilserbrewer** · 03-19-2010, 02:17 AM

Here are a couple popular links for simple all grain brewing....great place to start IMO
http://hbd.org/cascade/dennybrew/
http://cruisenews.net/brewing/infusion/
http://cruisenews.net/brewing/infusion/page1.php

DFoster · 03-19-2010, 02:40 AM

Make sure you go to a restaurant wholesaler for your kettle. I bought a 20 gallon aluminum pot online for $73 shipped...and it has worked very well. All of my other things I posted on my blog, but it's all about the same as what was mentioned above. I just put down what I paid or what people should expect to pay, etc. Good luck!

**Pappers_** · 03-19-2010, 03:14 AM

Good idea, DFoster! On our website, I've got a section for our brewery, with pictures of our equipment. Its aimed at our friends and family who are not really brewers, but it might be helpful to someone just getting into all grain . . .

http://www.singingboysbrewing.com/about.html