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12-14-2010, 01:06 AM
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Can I drain as fast as I want then? Then this is much quicker than fly sparging, right?
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12-15-2010, 01:35 AM
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#82
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Location: CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nstorm1121
Can I drain as fast as I want then? Then this is much quicker than fly sparging, right?
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The rate you drain the tun won't affect your efficiency. However, you may find that you still need to start slow and gradually open it up as you still need to set the grain bed for filtration. I find that about 2/3 open is where I typically end up. Vorlauf as usual.
Brian
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02-07-2011, 02:46 PM
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#83
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Location: San Diego
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I just wanna say I do this too, I didn't even realize it. Works great, I always hit 80-85% with my HERMS setup.
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02-21-2011, 03:09 PM
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Pittsburgh
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I got really disappointing efficiency last night. I planned for six gallons of 1.064 and got 5 gallons of 1.057. That's a big difference. I was thinking that I oversparged, (4.5 gallons of mash, 4 of sparge, 15 lbs grain) but maybe I just didn't sparge well. I was still getting pretty dark wort out of the mashtun once I hit my volume. I'll have to try this in addition to paying more attention to the gravity readings at different points throughout the process.
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03-01-2011, 09:39 PM
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Location: Chandler, AZ
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So i've starting doing a true hybrid sparge. Employing this technique, and batch sparging.
I mash, then drain my 1st runnings.
I then split my sparge water into two amounts.
Pour in the first batch of sparge water, stir like crazy, vourlouf, then collect those runnings.
Here's when I start Fly Sparging, as i'm collecting my 2nd runnings, I start the method listed in this thread, keeping 1-2" of hot water over the grain bed..
Basically it's a double batch sparge, but I fly the 2nd batch. I started doing this out of laziness so I wouldn't have to re-set the grain bed, and re-vorlouf after my 2nd batch sparge, but now i'm finding a little higher efficiency, and clearer wort.
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03-11-2011, 09:48 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Port Saint Joe, Florida
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At the risk of hi-jacking the thread....
What is the best method to determine mash completion ?
J
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04-03-2011, 07:40 PM
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Location: Morris, IL
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Originally Posted by Piotr
small tip: put small plate or saucer on top of the grain bed and pour sparge water on it, this way you won't disturb the grain bed even if you pour a bit faster.
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+1... I used to use a false bottom but hated it so I built a manifold. Though I don't let the false bottom go to waste. I took the fitting off of it and now lay it atop the grain bed during my sparge. The curvature and perforation works nicely for even distribution of sparge water with no worries of channeling.
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04-06-2011, 01:48 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Port Saint Joe, Florida
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I use a copper manifold that I made.... I cover the manifold with a 5 gallon paint strainer bag prior to introducing the grain to the Mash Tun. Output from the Mash Tun is clear
from the beginning thus eliminate vorlauf all together.
I am currently looking for better ways to add sparge water without disturbing the grain bed.
J
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01-28-2012, 03:17 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Beaver Falls, PA
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So is the overall opinion that you shouldn't use this method with a straight braid in a rectangle cooler?
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01-29-2012, 12:14 AM
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Location: St. Louis, MO
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Originally Posted by CaseyHeartBeers
So is the overall opinion that you shouldn't use this method with a straight braid in a rectangle cooler?
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If you can find an identically sized rectangular container it should work. The main point is slowly drizzling water over the entire surface of the mash.
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