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Old 02-28-2012, 03:31 AM   #101
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so if i'm fly sparging but barely had an inch of water on top of the grain and sometimes less is that a major problem? I'm having a hard time figuring out efficiency because i think my hydrometer is WAY off on it's readings. it's telling me 70* water is 1.008so I think I'm getting false high readings on original gravity. I'll wait and see where this batch finishes at before I get too worried.

I have a sprinkler head attachment in the lid of my 10 gallon cooler and that is fed from my HLT through a ball valve. It's a bit of a guessing game trying to get the flow rates right. my first batch i did bucket in bucket method and that beer came out great. My first batch with the cooler tun just got bottled today so I won't know how good it is for a couple weeks. just did latest brew yesterday and I did take my time with the sparge I just only let about an inch of water get on top, not 2 or 3

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Old 06-03-2012, 02:22 AM   #102
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BierMuncher - thanks for posting. Going to try this method (hope I got it all clear) next time brewing.

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Old 06-04-2012, 07:00 PM   #103
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OG went down a bit. Back to batch sparging or maybe something in between.

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Old 06-12-2012, 01:32 PM   #104
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I just brewed a BDSA expecting 65% efficiency and 1.078 OG. I used the method outlined by wildwest above, and got 84% efficiency and OG of 1.098. I'll definitely do this for big beers, but I'm not sure its worth the hassle for medium and lower gravity beers. That's my best efficiency yet, though!

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Old 06-13-2012, 03:38 PM   #105
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Just updated the original post with a quick video of my ugly bucket in action.

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Old 06-13-2012, 06:42 PM   #106
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I use this method thanks to this thread, and I have to say I get great results. Usually efficiency in the high 80s with the corona-style mill I was using. Possibly more with the new Barley Crusher I just got.

I'm curious about the hot water bucket in your video. What are those metal doodads sticking out of the side for?

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Old 07-31-2012, 03:44 PM   #107
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Haha, I had no idea I was using the BM "sauce ladle quick fly sparge method" all this time!

I float a Tupperware lid on top of my sparge water in my MLT and slowly pour in 180* water on top of it. Great minds think alike?

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Old 08-09-2012, 06:17 AM   #108
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Question for the group, I get the impression that the efficiency in fly sparging is largely influenced by the quantity of sparge water. Is that correct? I tried fly sparging last weekend for the first time using Palmer's method of pouring water onto a plastic lid floating in the mashtun. I spent 30 to 45 minutes draining/adding sparge water to get to my boil volume. I ended up with an efficiency of only 65% which was less than the 70% I was getting from batch sparging. Having read through this thread I see a few areas where my efficiency could have suffered and am trying to figure out what modifications to my approach would be most beneficial. The first area is that prior to sparging I did a substantial infusion of water to attempt mash out. I waited 10 minutes and then started sparging with my remaining water. Between my mash water (1.5 qt per pound of grain) and the infusion to mash out I only had about 1.25 gallons of water left to sparge with. It sounds like most people are sparging with a lot more water. Do I want to have more water even if I am not going to drain it all into my boil pot? The second thing is that I was not focused on adding water at the same rate as I was draining. I was more concerned about the rate of flow coming out of the tun. With my mashout infusion the water level was well above the grain bed so I thought that would be ok. I appreciate any advice as to where I may have gone wrong. Thanks.

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Mash with less. I don't do a mashout, but drain the first runnings and bring the temp up immediately to avoid your problem. Sparge volume also help is batch sparging. Even if you still mash out, a thicker mash will take less water to bring up to mashout, leaving you with more sparge water all around.

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Just updated the original post with a quick video of my ugly bucket in action.
Im going to ask my wife to hold this string from the second floor bedroom for an hour while I sparge... she'll love the idea.


But this is a really helpful thread. It has me thinking and thinking-

After 3 extracts, 3 Biab indoor and 2 AG outdoor with a mashtun- I am STILL figuring out things that are going to be very helpful-

The funny thing is- all of the basic stuff usually has peoples heads boggled. The process is really simple. The graphic you posted is ideal - thats exactly what is happening when hotter water is pushing down the cooler wort-

I am brewing tomorrow and using some more info in this thread to really blow out an awesome batch
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