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Old 11-11-2008, 03:46 PM   #11
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Well I definitely missed that part of the thread. My experience thus far has been no collapsing of the braid - as far as I can tell. I've been using the same braid from my 2 gallon mini mash tun to my new 70 quart tun that I just mashed 22 lbs of grain in.

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Old 11-11-2008, 03:46 PM   #12
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I've yet to have the braid collapse even with close to 25lbs of grain and the 10 gallon tun filled to the lid. I really feel that most if not all damage is done while stirring the mash

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Old 11-11-2008, 04:36 PM   #13
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Dumb question, but bear with me! You had tubing from the barb into the kettle, right? I ask because one guy had all sorts of problems, but when he showed a picture, he just opened the valve and didn't have any tubing hooked up to it. Having the tubing makes more of a siphon effect and "pulls" the wort out. If you have that already, then I dunno!

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I don't mind it Yooper, Ive done plenty of dumb things before but that atleast wasn't one of them. The SS braid has to be hooked up to the valve pretty good, since after I decided the valve wasn't working good enough, I just dump grain and all onto a colander and strainer sitting on the top of my pot. the braid didn't fall out with the grain so I can only assume its on there pretty good. Also after I cleaned out my MLT, I ran water through the valve and it came out fine so it doesn't look like anything got stuck in the piping anywhere.

I think I'm going to try and stretch the SS braid out a little more. Maybe the thickness of the liquid prevented a good flow? Thanks for the help everyone.

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Old 11-11-2008, 05:15 PM   #15
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I don't mind it Yooper, Ive done plenty of dumb things before but that atleast wasn't one of them. The SS braid has to be hooked up to the valve pretty good, since after I decided the valve wasn't working good enough, I just dump grain and all onto a colander and strainer sitting on the top of my pot. the braid didn't fall out with the grain so I can only assume its on there pretty good. Also after I cleaned out my MLT, I ran water through the valve and it came out fine so it doesn't look like anything got stuck in the piping anywhere.

I think I'm going to try and stretch the SS braid out a little more. Maybe the thickness of the liquid prevented a good flow? Thanks for the help everyone.
Yeah, I'm thinking stuck sparge and nothing more...I've used my setup (with the hose inside) over a dozen times, and with some mighty thick water/grain ratios and not had a problem.
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Old 11-11-2008, 05:20 PM   #16
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I The SS braid has to be hooked up to the valve pretty good, since after I decided the valve wasn't working good enough, I just dump grain and all onto a colander and strainer sitting on the top of my pot. the braid didn't fall out with the grain so I can only assume its on there pretty good.
I think what she meant was that there was a hose on the outside of the MLT, not that the braid was well attached to the valve Having a hose attached to the other side creates a nice siphon action. Stuck sparge is a possibility, as already mentioned - when you dumped it out, was there any really gooey, doughy looking stuff?
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I think what she meant was that there was a hose on the outside of the MLT, not that the braid was well attached to the valve Having a hose attached to the other side creates a nice siphon action. Stuck sparge is a possibility, as already mentioned - when you dumped it out, was there any really gooey, doughy looking stuff?
Ahh ... well then I guess I am an idiot. I didn't have a hose on the outside of the MLT. Didn't even think it was necessary. I was pouring the wort into a measuring cup and then putting it into the pot.

Thanks for figuring out my stupid mistake. Atleast the solution is easy.
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Ahh ... well then I guess I am an idiot. I didn't have a hose on the outside of the MLT. Didn't even think it was necessary. I was pouring the wort into a measuring cup and then putting it into the pot.

Thanks for figuring out my stupid mistake. Atleast the solution is easy.
Nah - not a stupid mistake at all. It should work the way you did it, it would probably just work better with the hose. Stuck sparge is still the likeliest candidate - one thing you can do when that happens is to shut the valve, stir it all up, and re-vorlauf and see if it drains better.

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Old 11-11-2008, 10:20 PM   #19
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Do you have your lid screwed on tight while you are trying to drain? That will slow your drain down considerably. Try giving the lid a half turn or so counter clockwise to relaese the vacuum. I bet you will get a much better flow.

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Old 11-12-2008, 01:41 AM   #20
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As I was reading through the thread I thought of three possible "gotchas". First was to make sure your braid is actually stainless and not some plastic/vinyl stuff. More than 10 people on here thought they had it right but no... If you didn't prick your finger messing with the braid, you probably got the wrong one. Second, no tubing on the outside of the tun and no gravity drop. Yooper nailed that one and it's a huge deal. Last, you might have reduced your open area down too much by not making enough holes in your inner tubing. I personally don't feel the insert is necessary at all. I've never crushed it under any grain load before, but what size holes did you drill every 1 inch?

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