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Old 09-09-2012, 05:37 AM   #11
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Keep some dry malt extract on hand for when a beer doesn't hit its number, if you are concerned about ABV.
This one will be less alcohol than Guinness if it really was 1.028.

Doesn't mean it will suck.
Does mean you should burn through it quickly and make it right, next time.

If you didn't get an accurate hydro reading, it could be meaningfully higher. You aren't going to know the ABV without an accurate hydro or refractometer reading for SG/OG and FG. But it's not worth worrying about, particularly if it tastes good. Looks good.

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Old 09-09-2012, 05:43 AM   #12
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Keep some dry malt extract on hand for when a beer doesn't hit its number, if you are concerned about ABV.
This one will be less alcohol than Guinness if it really was 1.028.

Doesn't mean it will suck.
Does mean you should burn through it quickly and make it right, next time.

If you didn't get an accurate hydro reading, it could be meaningfully higher. You aren't going to know the ABV without an accurate hydro or refractometer reading for SG/OG and FG. But it's not worth worrying about, particularly if it tastes good. Looks good.
Thanks. I took the first hydro reading and it tasted great!

So if I don't hit my mark, how do I figure how much DME to added to bring up my S.G.?
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Old 09-09-2012, 12:45 PM   #13
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DME gives you about 45 points per pound per gallon. Using this formula:

(a#DME x 45)/b gallons = desired SG addition

So if you were interested in raising your SG by 18 points in a 5 gallon batch, you'd need

(a# x 45)/5 = 18, or 2# DME.

The SG of your beer was much higher than 1.028. Your partial mash alone would have given you 1.022 or so, assuming about a 65% efficiency. Adding the DME (you DID add the DME, didn't you? ) would have put you right around 1.065. What was your target?

Glad to hear that it tastes great, that's what we're all about anyway!

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Old 09-09-2012, 01:14 PM   #14
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The SG of your beer was much higher than 1.028. Your partial mash alone would have given you 1.022 or so, assuming about a 65% efficiency. Adding the DME (you DID add the DME, didn't you? ) would have put you right around 1.065. What was your target?

Glad to hear that it tastes great, that's what we're all about anyway!
That's correct- your SG reading was simply wrong. The "heavier" extract was on the bottom, while the top off water wasn't mixed in well.

With 5 pounds of extract, the sugars HAVE to be in there. They can't go anywhere, and the yeast will work on them. Your actual OG was probably more like 1.060-1.065. You get 9 SG points a gallon from one pound of DME in a 5 gallon batch- so if you used 5 pounds of DME, that alone will give you a 1.045 SG and that doesn't even include the grains you used.

So don't worry!
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I did a partial mash, replacing 2lbs of extract with 2.5lbs of 2 row pale barley.
BTW, if you were trying to do a direct conversion, you're 2 row should have been more like 3 lbs
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The only DME that was added was for the yeast starter. Otherwise, everything else is what was listed above.

This was a simple off-the-wall recipe at my local home brew shop. Grab the recipe, grab the ingredients, and then go home and brew. No S.G. to start by. No O.G. to end.

If it wasn't mixed well to begin with, I am assuming its probably to late to try and mix now??? Haha.

I'm thinking I may end up with a "non-alcoholic" stout! It's a learning experience. At least my cider is doing AMAZING!!!

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The only DME that was added was for the yeast starter. Otherwise, everything else is what was listed above.

This was a simple off-the-wall recipe at my local home brew shop. Grab the recipe, grab the ingredients, and then go home and brew. No S.G. to start by. No O.G. to end.

If it wasn't mixed well to begin with, I am assuming its probably to late to try and mix now??? Haha.

I'm thinking I may end up with a "non-alcoholic" stout! It's a learning experience. At least my cider is doing AMAZING!!!
Oh, you did not use the 5 # of DME that the recipe calls for?

If not, well, yeah, you're screwed.
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Oh, you did not use the 5 # of DME that the recipe calls for?

If not, well, yeah, you're screwed.
I used 5# of liquid... Sorry for not clarifying.

I also took a hydrometer reading last night. It's currently at 1.014.
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"I'm thinking I may end up with a "non-alcoholic" stout! "

Relax. Your beer is going to be fine. Not mixing enough isn't going to bother the yeast at all. The only thing that it messed up was your measurement. The second they start eating, the wort is going to start churning everything will be mixed up just fine.

That is the great thing about brewing with extract. The fermentable sugar is going to be there. You don't have to worry about it at all. All of the major manufactures put out incredibly reliable and consistent extract products. As long as you use the correct amount of water, your gravity is going to be spot on. If you add a small amount of other fermentables, you are going to be pretty darn close for your OG even if your mash isn't great. eg if you are only getting 10 points from non-extract sources, you can be drop from 75% efficiency down to 50% and still only be off 2.5 points.

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Well I racked last night @ 1.014.

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