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Old 03-24-2014, 04:11 PM   #21
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Thought I would chime in, since I had a similar issue with the AG Dead Ringer kit - tastes great and plenty bitter, but with no hop aroma, and followed the hop schedule and dry hopping per the instructions. Smelled awesome in the fermentor, and had a reasonably hoppy smell when I transferred to secondary, but nothing when bottling and sampling afterward. Curiously, I had the same issue with a previous NB Black IPA kit (extract) as well, which makes for a fairly boring IPA.

Granted, I am new to AG, brewing in general (and the forums) so something in my process could be off, such as oxidation etc., but I know that our water supply drastically increased the level of chlorine/chloramine a while back. Could this be killing off the aroma? I just started using campden tablets for pre-treatment, so I suppose I'll find out if that is an issue with the NB Moose Drool kit that is fermenting away...

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Old 03-25-2014, 04:51 PM   #22
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What about the sulfate level? Chloride makes a beer seem "fuller" and almost sweeter, but you really need a high level of sulfate to make the hops and bitterness "pop".

It does take longer to extract dryhops goodness out of a cold beer, so while I dryhop for 5 days at 58 degrees, I'll dryhop a lot longer in the kegerator to get the maximum amount out of them.
Yooper, I'm glad you responded! I think you are onto something. My Sulfate level is 24ppm. I see in BrunWater that it suggests from 150ppm to 350ppm for hoppy/bitter beers. The cell was still green for me and I didn't catch this.

I just brewed a Wooky Jack clone this past weekend and its bubbling away. Is it too late to adjust the beer in some way to increase the sulfates before dry hopping?

I'm going to secondary this one and dry hop @65 degrees and see if that helps.

Thanks!
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Old 03-25-2014, 04:58 PM   #23
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Lupulin threshold shift?
Oh man .. I just googled that. I didn't know the term but I've always wondered why some beers I used to like don't do it for me. I mainly drink IPA's and lately they are getting stronger and hoppier. One of my current favorites is Lagunitus Sucks. Awesome beer. I did just rediscover NB Ranger and It has a nice aroma/flavor. So maybe all is not lost for my taste buds.
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