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Old 04-30-2009, 04:15 PM   #1
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I am brewing my first AG. After reading papazians books I am wondering if I missed something. I heard people talk about whirlpooling and all. My past malt extract full boils i just dumped the kettle into the bucket after the hour boil.... hot/cold break and all. Do you guys all whirlpool then siphon out from the sides of the brew kettle? Would I be ok dumping it all in the bucket or is it a MUST to whirlpool and siphon AG batches?

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Old 04-30-2009, 04:18 PM   #2
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nothing with brewing is a must. I tend to end up with a cleaner cold break and my beer clears quicker. Some hops are bound to get in but its debatable wheather it affects flavor. I have done both and have yet to have problems or difference in flavor with either

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Old 04-30-2009, 04:21 PM   #3
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I do b/c it's a pain to stand there and pour a full five gallons (or ten when I'm doing ten gallon batches) of wort into a carboy. 2-3 extract gallons is no problem, but try holding roughly 50 lbs. and it gets tiring.

However, if you're tough enough, then go for it, Popeye!

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Old 05-01-2009, 12:17 AM   #4
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I don't, I use wirlfloc or irish moss to clump the protiens, cool it down and dump the whole thing in. the cold break will clump back together and fall to the bottom again...

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I do b/c it's a pain to stand there and pour a full five gallons (or ten when I'm doing ten gallon batches) of wort into a carboy. 2-3 extract gallons is no problem, but try holding roughly 50 lbs. and it gets tiring.

However, if you're tough enough, then go for it, Popeye!
Its a 5 gallon not 10 and yes I can lift that. Doesnt take popeye lol 50 pounds isnt much and it doesnt get tiring because it takes a whole 30 seconds to pour it into the fermenter.

Profarm thats what i was kinda hoping to hear, i use irish moss too. Just wasnt sure if even with that i had to siphon off the top from the kettle.
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Old 05-03-2009, 06:22 AM   #6
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You will end up with a lot more sediment in your fermenter than you would otherwise. It was kind of a shock to us last month when we did our first all grain batch. Next time we will end up whirl pooling and siphoning. But my understanding is that you wont ruin your beer by not doing it.

Extract just doesn't seem to have that problem. I'm sure someone can technically explain why. I'm sure it's something about proteins and enzymes and junk.

Good luck! All grain is a lot of fun. Start early and plan on a really long brewing day!

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Old 05-03-2009, 10:56 AM   #7
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No, as others have mentioned, it's not a requirement. Some people prefer to leave as much of the hot/cold break/hops out of the fermenter as possible. It's pretty easy to add a valve to the kettle, and it makes things a lot simpler.

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Extract just doesn't seem to have that problem. I'm sure someone can technically explain why. I'm sure it's something about proteins and enzymes and junk.
The extract producer has already partially done the hot break for you. They have to boil the wort down to make a concentrated syrup. Although they do it under vacuum, a lot of the proteins are coagulated so that extract buyers get nice clear wort.
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Its a 5 gallon not 10 and yes I can lift that. Doesnt take popeye lol 50 pounds isnt much and it doesnt get tiring because it takes a whole 30 seconds to pour it into the fermenter.
And only 5 seconds to knock the bucket over.
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I've whirlpooled and siphoned before but now I just dump--even with ten gallon batches. My siphon is just too slow. Maybe someday I'll get a fancy ball valve.

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