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Paquitin 08-25-2012 04:06 AM

Gypsum and PH 5.2 Srabilizer in one batch.
 
Tomorrow I will be brewing a hoppy IPA and I have thought of using gypsum to make does hop really pop. I always use PH 5.2 with RO water with great results. This time I really want to make the hops come through. Should I mix both PH 5.2 and Gypsum or just stick with one of them? Any thoughts?

zeno27 08-25-2012 04:24 AM

If you just want the sulfate for flavor, add the gypsum to the boil.

Paquitin 08-25-2012 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeno27
If you just want the sulfate for flavor, add the gypsum to the boil.

Making a 10.5 gal batch. Any suggestions on how much gypsum to add to the boil?

heyblinkin 08-25-2012 04:58 AM

You can do some quick searching on this forum to find popular brewery's water profiles. I remember seeing Sierra Nevada and Green flash on here. I've used this calculator to find out what type of water I have, and what I need to add to get the water I want. Should help.

http://www.brewersfriend.com/water-chemistry/

zeno27 08-25-2012 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paquitin

Making a 10.5 gal batch. Any suggestions on how much gypsum to add to the boil?

Without knowing your starting concentration of sulfate, it's impossible to know exactly. But Palmer tells you how much each gram of gypsum will add to the sulfate levels.
http://www.howtobrew.com/section3/chapter15-4.html

Two teaspoons gypsum in a 10 gallon batch would add about 120 ppm, which should give you the effect you want. Generally though, I'd say NOT to make mineral additions unless you know what's in the water at the beginning.

mabrungard 08-25-2012 04:05 PM

5.2 just adds a bunch of sodium to the water and doesn't really improve brewing in most cases. But in this brewer's case, starting with RO water could actually get a benefit since 5.2 adds a bit of buffering that keeps the pH from dropping too low when the calcium level is increased. The target sulfate level in brewing water is highly subjective and up to the brewer's taste. Bringing the sulfate level to 120 ppm may be a good start, but I find that boosting it to around 300 ppm is pleasing in an IPA.

Since gypsum can be added directly to the boil kettle and would not be needed in the mash because RO water is used, I recommend that 5.2 be deleted from the mashing water and add most of the gypsum directly to the kettle with a little added to the tun to help reduce beerstone formation. The calcium reacts with oxalate in the mash to reduce beerstone potential.

As AJ Delange likes to say, 5.2 works great for brewers that don't check their mash pH and doesn't work at all for brewers that do check pH. In other words, its snake oil.

Paquitin 08-26-2012 02:05 AM

Thanks everyone. I will be brewing tomorrow and after what I have read I am going with some calcium chloride and gypsum. Will put the info in beers ugh and calculate what I need to add for my brew. Will let you know how it turns out.

Paquitin 08-29-2012 04:03 AM

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I ended up using the 5.2 and added 4 Tbsp of Gypsum to the boil. Yates it before pitching yeast and do far had great flavor. I decided to split the batch and ferment with two different yeast WLP001 and WLP002.


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