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Old 07-20-2013, 01:23 AM   #1
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Quick question, is CaraPils malt the same as Caramel malt-40L.

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Old 07-20-2013, 01:30 AM   #2
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I would say "Not at all similar".
Check out this and this...

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Old 07-20-2013, 01:32 AM   #3
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no sir...

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Old 07-20-2013, 01:32 AM   #4
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Here is a chart that show Carapils as a little different by each maltster. It looks like it is similar to some Crystal 10L.

http://www.brew.is/files/malt.html

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So I was going to brew tomorrow an amber ale tomorrow and I don't have any Caramel malt-40L but I have Crystal 75L. Would this be a good substitute for the caramel ?

AG Amber ale
9lbs British 2 row pale malt
12 oz caramel malt
4 oz roasted barley
4 oz special malt B
1 oz fuggle
1 oz cascade

any help much appreciated
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I often substitute different crystals and caramels which are pretty close to the same thing. If using C-75 instead of Caramel 40 I would use about half as much. I have made a lot of recipes what I used the chart I linked previously to substitute something similar. If you change, it will most likely be good, just not exactly the same as the recipe.

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Great thanks for the info

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There's 2 things the caramel malts add, color and flavor. When substituting, you could theoretically achieve the same color by using less of a darker malt or more of a lighter one. This will NOT however produce the same flavor. If you want a recipe with C40 to taste the same as with C75, you'll have to use more like 2/3 or 3/4 the amount, and accept that it will be darker in color. It also won't taste quite the same, as the flavors are DIFFERENT, not just more or less intense. I personally value beer flavor more than appearance, so I'd use about 2/3 the amount of C75 if replacing C40. It'll be a little darker, but closer to the original recipe flavor. It may even be better!! ;-)

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There's 2 things the caramel malts add, color and flavor. When substituting, you could theoretically achieve the same color by using less of a darker malt or more of a lighter one. This will NOT however produce the same flavor. If you want a recipe with C40 to taste the same as with C75, you'll have to use more like 2/3 or 3/4 the amount, and accept that it will be darker in color. It also won't taste quite the same, as the flavors are DIFFERENT, not just more or less intense. I personally value beer flavor more than appearance, so I'd use about 2/3 the amount of C75 if replacing C40. It'll be a little darker, but closer to the original recipe flavor. It may even be better!! ;-)
I hear ya, suppose I could drive the hour to the local home brew store but I have the C-75l so I think I'll use it as per your suggestion.
It's the first time brewing this amber ale. If it turns out great maybe I'll brew it again with the 40-L. Just for comparison
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Just re-read your recipe. 12 oz of C40 is fairly subtle in a 5 gallon batch anyway. Use 10 of C75 and you'll be fine. ...

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