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Old 02-06-2012, 10:37 AM   #11
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I just went up over 10% efficiency just by adding 15 more minutes to my mash. Stirring has gotten my up almost 10% as well. Just find what works for your system but don't be afraid to try a new approach if you have some idea of how it can improve your process...I have the most basic setup imaginable and yet I hit 76% yesterday, overshooting my expected!

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Old 02-06-2012, 11:42 AM   #12
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I double batch sparge and get 90% efficiency.

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Old 02-06-2012, 12:00 PM   #13
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I double batch sparge and get 90% efficiency.
Routinely?
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Old 02-06-2012, 12:16 PM   #14
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Old 02-06-2012, 12:16 PM   #15
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I sparge at 170 & 175

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Old 02-06-2012, 12:24 PM   #16
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I sparge at 170 & 175
me too, someone posted they use 195 deg water, I have never tired it that high before, is there anything to using hotter water?
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Old 02-06-2012, 01:14 PM   #17
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me too, someone posted they use 195 deg water, I have never tired it that high before, is there anything to using hotter water?
I double batch sparge and routinely get efficiency in the low 80% range. My first sparge is usually between 195 and 205 depending on mash temp. This gets the grain bed up to 170. I equate it to doing a mashout at the same time as my sparge...for the second batch...I add cold water back to the hlt to bring the temp back down to 170.

I am of the belief that high efficiency isn't nearly as important as consistent efficiency. I plan my standard gravity beers around an assumed efficiency of 80% and high gravity beers between 65 and 70 depending on the size of the grain bill.

It will take a couple of batches to dial in your boil off and system deadspace
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Old 02-06-2012, 01:28 PM   #18
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Yeah, it's hard to imagine there's a brewer out there who got over 70% efficiency on their very first all grain batch. You have to know what you're doing with your crush, your mash, and your sparge. It's hard to know what you're doing without first participating in this very conversation, and it's hard to do that without first brewing and getting a poor efficiency that makes you scratch your head and wonder "Why did I get such a poor efficiency?" It's a process.

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Old 02-06-2012, 03:45 PM   #19
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I was getting mixed efficiency results from using crushed grains from different LHBS. I even think that some of their scales are not correct. Once i started buying bulk and doing my own crush is when i really dialed in my process. 80% consistently batch sparing.

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Old 02-06-2012, 05:58 PM   #20
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When brewing on my gear, I batch sparge exclusively to good success - though I've fly sparged on friends' rigs to slightly better efficiency.

Can you describe your process? Maybe we can spot room for improvement...

In brief, here's mine:
- mash 60 minutes, usually between 152 and 158, depending on what kind of beer I'm shooting for, and almost always at 1.25 qts water per pound grain
- prepare sparge water
- lauter the mash tun, then add half the sparge water to the grain bed
- mix,wait 15 minutes, lauter, then add the rest of the sparge water
- mix, wait 15 minutes, lauter, then start boiling
- lauter the mash tun, then add half the sparge water to the grain bed
***Lauter as in empty the mash tun, placing the wort into the brew pot before adding ~ half the sparge water?

I'm just getting into home brewing and my first two brews (AG) were sparged slightly different from each other. If nothing else, I'm just tweaking my process to maximize efficiency


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