HBT 2015 Big Giveaway - Enter Now

Huge Supporting Membership Discounts - 20% Off

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing > Flavor profile change US 2row vs Maris Otter
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 07-10-2013, 03:11 AM   #1
madirish
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 16
Default Flavor profile change US 2row vs Maris Otter

Brewed my fav Irish Red last weekend, however store wss out of Maris Otter so I used US 2 row instead. How will the flavor profile change, assuming everything else is the same?

9lb 2 row (previous version was 9lb maris otter)
1lb Vienna
1/2 lb Melanoiden
1/4 lb Crystal 40
1/4 lb roasted barley
1.5 oz fuggles, 30 min
.5 oz Wilamette 15 min
WLP0004

60 min boil, 152

Thanks!

__________________
madirish is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-10-2013, 02:40 PM   #2
motorneuron
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 561
Liked 53 Times on 52 Posts
Likes Given: 26

Default

To me, 2-row has a more grainy, hay-like flavor than Maris Otter, which tastes a bit more like bread. But these things are a bit subjective. It would be a good exercise to try a split batch that is identical except for MO vs 2-row. I've never done that, but maybe I will.

__________________
motorneuron is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-10-2013, 02:54 PM   #3
WileECoyote
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Mohave Valley, Az
Posts: 1,451
Liked 152 Times on 123 Posts
Likes Given: 230

Default

Hello, I find that 2 row produces a less flavorful beer and lighter too, kinda like the difference between a regular and light beer of the same brand.

I like the Maris Otter much better, but then again I like malt forward beers with a lot of flavor.

Cheers

__________________

WileECoyote
Naked Brew

Bartender Ill have what the gentleman on the floor is drinking.

I have spent more $ on brewing equipment than my truck cost!

Green beer sucks, let it age/condition/finish and become great before drinking it. WileECoyote

Good/Great beer takes time! if you want a quick beer go to the store or bar!

Things come and go. Good beer will live on for ever ! WileECoyote

WileECoyote is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-10-2013, 02:59 PM   #4
ArcaneXor
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,524
Liked 102 Times on 94 Posts
Likes Given: 30

Default

Generic Pale malt (i.e. "2-Row", not to be confused with Pale Ale malt) doesn't have much of a flavor on its own (slightly grainy, like the poster before me pointed out), which is why many (but not all) SMaSH beers with 2-Row are somewhat uninspiring.
Maris Otter is a heritage strain of grain malted to be a Pale Ale malt, which has a rich, bready taste. It's quite distinct. Blended pale ale malts are somewhere in the middle, with most U.S. varieties slightly milder than continental European pale ale malts, and English pale ale malts being the most flavorful (with plenty of exceptions to that rule).

If your recipe calls for a Pale Ale malt but you can only get Pale 2-Row, it helps to add 8 oz or so of a Biscuit malt to produce some of the richer flavors. I like Briess Victory for this purpose.

__________________
ArcaneXor is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-10-2013, 11:58 PM   #5
FATC1TY
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Atlanta Area, GA
Posts: 1,617
Liked 136 Times on 112 Posts
Likes Given: 27

Default

I'll comment that if you can't get the MO, next time add some victory or some biscuit malt. It'll get ya closer.

MO will lend a sweeter, more bready rich flavor to the beer. The two row will leave a blank, slightly grain like canvas that if you don't have much going on, will leave it a little lack luster.

I use basic cheap 2 row pale when I've got a beer that will be slammed with specialty grains.. with the exception of my russian imperial stouts.. I'll use MO or even golden promise.

__________________

----------
Bubba's Backyard Brewery

FATC1TY is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply



Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Help with Maris Otter doctorjo5 Recipes/Ingredients 4 04-11-2013 08:20 PM
Maris Otter C-Rider Recipes/Ingredients 19 11-02-2012 06:52 PM
Having to repitch yeast...will it change the flavor profile BVilleggiante Fermentation & Yeast 6 07-04-2012 05:17 AM
Maris otter profile gcdowd Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 8 09-03-2011 05:20 AM
Maris Otter uses? Onescalerguy Recipes/Ingredients 13 11-08-2007 06:16 PM



Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS