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Old 01-29-2012, 07:33 PM   #1
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Hey there, so I'm brewing up a fairly standard ESB recipe, but I wanted to punch up the flavor and aroma. I'm sticking to a mellow hop schedule with EKG and Willamette:

1 oz Fuggle @ Boil, set Timer for 60 min
1 oz Willamette @ 30
1 TSP Irish Moss @ 15
½ oz Fuggle @ 10
½ oz Willamette @ 10
½ oz Fuggle @ Flameout
½ oz Willamette @ Flameout

I made this last time and I'd really like a bigger nose, and a bit more hop flavor. It was a really clean tasting beer, and probably my best made. The malt character was perfect, but again, I'd like to punch up the hop nose, and a little flavor. Bittering is fine at about 30 IBU.

In addition to the above, here's what I have:
1 oz Amarillo
1 oz Centennial
1 oz Columbus

Any thoughts on a breakdown for some addition at 10 min, and flameout...maybe a dry hop?

Thanks much !
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Old 01-29-2012, 07:40 PM   #2
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I think any of those three will drown out what you've got going with the Willamette and Fuggles. I would examine bittering with one of the three hops you have listed at the end (to an appropriate IBU level - you'll need less weight than the Fuggles you have listed @60) and use a full 1.5oz of Fuggles at 10m. That will give you some flavor and aroma but not in an overpowering American/Citrus way that you'd get from any of those three used late in the boil. Or you could dry hop with it.

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Ok, so if I add, say the Columbus (1/2 oz) at 60, and bring the fuggle up to 1.5oz at 10 min. 1/2 oz Columbus at 13.9 AA, brings the bitterness up to about 45 per Beer Tools Pro. Should be okay huh

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Bump your 10 min additions up to 20 min to pull out more flavor components. I agree, those other hops will muddle the Fuggle/Willamette combo you've got going.

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Just double your late addition hops and you should be fine, your schedule looks good otherwise.

Save the three other hops for a different brew!!

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Bitter with columbus but keep your ibu at 30

1 oz willamette @ 20min

1 oz fuggle @ 10 min

1 oz willamette and 1 oz fuggle @ flameout

That would be my plan with what you've got. I agree that if you try and use amarillo or centennial for flavor or aroma you're going to muddle anything you get from the fuggle/willamette hops.

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Ok, that's pretty close to the last hop schedule I had though isnt it?
I loved the maltiness, and the bitterness...but I was hoping the beer would have a bigger nose this time around... like a hoppy ESB, which I guess is probably just a standard american pale, huh

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All you can do is brew it the way you want and then play with it next time if your not happy with it. I love esb's and have been tweaking mine since I first started brewing. If you want more nose you could always try a hop tea or dryhop in secondary. Last time I made mine I used 2 oz of EKG at 15 and 1 oz at flameout. It had a good balance of hop nose and malt.

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