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Old 12-17-2010, 12:36 AM   #1
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Default First wort hop screw up

So I missread what the first wort hop procedure is. Instead of adding after first runnings, I added 2 oz. of whole hops at the start of the mash. So they sat for 60 min. with the grain and then I sparged as normal. What kind of off flavor can I excpect from this screw up? Thanks.

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Old 12-17-2010, 01:08 AM   #2
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I really don't know what that will do... but it won't ruin it. What was the recipe and other hop schedule?

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Old 12-17-2010, 02:09 AM   #3
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I'll send out the schedule later. It was pretty normal. I think it was-
1 oz. Chinook @ 60
1 oz. Chinook @ 20
1 oz. Amarillo @ 7
1 oz. Amarillo @ 0
1 oz. Citra @ 0

Dry hop w/
2 oz. Amarillo
2 oz. Citra

13 lbs. 2-Row
3 ponds other grains.

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Old 12-17-2010, 01:43 PM   #4
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Expect the WORST off flavors.

Just kidding, it looks fine. Are you saying that you also added 1oz Chinook when it started boiling? If so, then it looks like a fine IPA to me. In fact, had the FWH been in there, you might be looking at an insane IIPA with possibly too much bittering and not enough late additions.

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Old 12-17-2010, 01:52 PM   #5
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You'll still be ok. Check out this thread on mash hopping.

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Beer Smith's default Mash-Hop calculation is -80% utilization. for instance, 2 oz of Cascade hops in a 60 minute mash yields 14.5 IBUs. that same amount of Cascade in a 60 minute boil yields 72 IBUs. in theory, that same 2 oz in FWH should yield about 44 IBUs.

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Beer Smith's default Mash-Hop calculation is -80% utilization. for instance, 2 oz of Cascade hops in a 60 minute mash yields 14.5 IBUs. that same amount of Cascade in a 60 minute boil yields 72 IBUs. in theory, that same 2 oz in FWH should yield about 44 IBUs.
its impossible for FWH to be less than a 60min add since its boiled 60mins. its roughly 10% more IBUs than a 60min add, but its smoother so seems like a 20min add.
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its impossible for FWH to be less than a 60min add since its boiled 60mins. its roughly 10% more IBUs than a 60min add, but its smoother so seems like a 20min add.
After researching the **** out of this in recent weeks, that IBU # is perceived bitterness. I should have mentioned that.
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I'd say it's a smoother or more refined bitterness. Tastes like some of the harsher flavors get boiled out.

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