Thanks Pappers...Jeez, there is a dry hopped IPA fermenting, thinking of bottling that next weekend, and "Pestilence Porter" went into fermentation on sat, check forum for that story...keyword "bug". I would really like to brew an altbier (altbeer)? which is one of my favs to fill the growler with at my local Micro. BTW is the girl in your avatar married? I think I'm in lust.