First AG...might have blown it

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So I did my 4th batch tonight. My first AG. I decided to go with EdWorts Haus Pale Ale. I used DeathBrewers method for easy AG brewing. Here are a few problems I encountered.

1. I missed my strike temp by about 3-4 degrees. I heated the water to 165 and was trying to get to 152. For some reason it just ended up around 149.

2. I ended up wayyyy short of 5 gallons. I topped off a little. I know I wasnt supposed to but I did. I'd say half a gallon. I ended up with around 4 - 4.5 gallons.

3. It took me 3 hours to shock the wort. Usually my ice bath cools it within an hour. I dont know why it took so long this time. I ended up giving in and pitching around 78 degrees. It was 1AM so I didnt really have a choice.

What do you guys think? Did I blow it completely?
 
1. Not such a big deal, you'll lose a few fermentables--I had a thermometer that read lower than normal and I subsequently mashed lower than normal, but still made beer.

2. I'll top off if I take a hydrometer reading and am higher than expected, but otherwise you're just watering down your beer. Better to have less of a good beer than more of a watery beer, but what's done is done.

Did you take a reading before topping off?

3. Not sure of your method for cooling, you may want to invest in an immersion chiller/prechiller to cool your wort faster. 78 degrees is kind of high (remember fermentation creates higher temps as well), but probably safely within the range of not doing too much harm.

I'd say you'll make some drinkable beer, this is a fairly forgiving recipe--I know from experience. :D
 
So I did my 4th batch tonight. My first AG. I decided to go with EdWorts Haus Pale Ale. I used DeathBrewers method for easy AG brewing. Here are a few problems I encountered.

1. I missed my strike temp by about 3-4 degrees. I heated the water to 165 and was trying to get to 152. For some reason it just ended up around 149.

2. I ended up wayyyy short of 5 gallons. I topped off a little. I know I wasnt supposed to but I did. I'd say half a gallon. I ended up with around 4 - 4.5 gallons.

3. It took me 3 hours to shock the wort. Usually my ice bath cools it within an hour. I dont know why it took so long this time. I ended up giving in and pitching around 78 degrees. It was 1AM so I didnt really have a choice.

What do you guys think? Did I blow it completely?

Easy mistakes to correct...no worries.

1. Until you are comfortable w/ your system, I think it is best to overshoot your temps by a few degrees, it is far easier to add a handful of ice cubes, or a pint of cool water, then raise the mash temp. Or also have a kettle of boiling water standing by.

2. Topping off is no big deal, after a few batches, you will be able to judge your volumes pretty easily just by the head space in the kettle IMHO.

3. Rather than pitch warm, delay pitching until the wort is cooler. While it is ideal to pitch quickly, I would rather pitch the following morning rather than pitch warm.

Good job all the same.
Mike
 
I had problems getting my wort cooled yesterday also -- it got up to 102* outside so the wort temp was 88* after going through the CFC :drunk:

I decided to secure the lid and airlock and toss into the ferment fridge, but that was working reallly slow so I put it in an ice bath and got down to 67* within an hour or so. Hot-ass times call for cold (er...) measures.
 
I routinely pitch my yeast in ales at 80 degrees, I know my fermentation area will cool it to about 71-72 during the 12 hour lag time. i have never had off flavors due to this, but I am vigilant in monitoring fermentation temps and activity after I pitch, so I wouldn't worry about that if I were you. Like another poster said, its good to keep some boiling water handy in case of a missed temp, but you'll figure out how much heat you lose to your system over a couple brews. You can always mash a little longer at a lower temp and end up with something a little lighter than planned, no real harm done. Definitely should have some sort of chiller for full boils. That should be next on your list of supplies, maybe you can make one or trade a handy friend some brews for making you one.
 
I had to top off my first AG batch a month ago. I was skeptical but the final product is fine. I made an immersion chiller for just a little over $50 and it is a godsend. I bought a little aqua pump from petsmart for $15. I fill a bucket with ice water and submerge it in and hook it up to one end of my i.c. This runs the ice bath through the wort and usually only takes me 30 to 45 mins to get to pitching temps.
 
welllll...after 8 days in the primary i took a gravity reading. it was right on...even though i had topped off with a bit of water. i am thinking this beer is going to turn out great. i tasted it, and even without carbonation it tasted great. i guess its AG from here on out.
 
so i just tasted it...wow. i love it. it is still a little green, but it is great. tastes better than the extract batches i made. i am hooked on AG now. think i am going to do cheese's caramel cream ale next if i can figure out his schedule and mash temps. here is a picture of the beer. its a little cloudy because it is the first pull from the keg. but still beautiful

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Just keep at it.....sounds like you're getting the hang of it. I've got my first 3 AG batches in the primary / secondary, compiling an order for the next ones. I've been fighting the same things you have since I started. No matter what people say about brewing software, or formulas in Palmer, or even throwing darts, there seems to be a bit of black magic in arriving at the correct mash temperature without fiddling with boiling water or ice....
 
Yeah strike temperatures are tough. You get the impression "well brew2010 v5.5, whatever, says I need 164* water for 152* mash temp and that's all!" A ton of factors go into that portion being correct or a total pain in the ass. Found out in my first AG attempt.

Next time I am throwing the water in at 170*, letting that cool until about 166-165* (or at least a few degrees above what the computer says) and then put the grain in. I am confident that I will lose a degree or two while mashing so it will end up being just fine. And in the end can I tell the difference between a beer mashed at 152 or 153? No.
 
You kegged after 8 days? That's kinda quick, although I have heard Edwort's Pale is ready pretty quick. I'd still give it a few more days but maybe that's just me.
 
yeah it is very green after only 10 days. think i will wait another 4 days or so before i take another pull from the keg. woe is me. i only have two kegs to drink from for 4 days. what is a good next AG recipe after edworts haus pale ale?
 
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