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Old 04-01-2013, 02:05 PM   #1
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My first all grain brew and all kinds of problems started off with equipment issues due to borrowing a friends turkey fryer turn into super low efficiency at about 50 percent. Then I broke my hydrometer while cleaning it before taking my starting gravity and yesterday was Easter so I didn't get the chance to watch my brew to see how is fermenting and by time I came home with the family I was so tired I forgot to check it. I go down first thing this morning and of course I had a blow off so I clean and sanitize a hose real quick got that back in running into sanitizer solution and thankfully it started bubbling right away I'm just hoping all is still ok. I guess the fermcap didn't keep the krausen down enough. There have been other little irritating issues. I'm tying to relax and enjoy a home brew. I'm trying another AG brew tomorrow so I'm hoping to learn from my mistakes and make that batch better. Going to be doing lots of reading on efficiency and i think since the next batch is a bigger beer ill definitely use a blow off hose from the get go. Just wanted to share!

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Old 04-01-2013, 02:12 PM   #2
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In your opinion, why did you get such a low efficiency?

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Old 04-01-2013, 02:40 PM   #3
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I would some more info.
Did you sparge?
Did you fly or batch sparge?
What was grain bed temp?
Did you vorlof?

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I did for vorlof 2 liters. I was fly sparging, kept about an inch or so of water above the grain bed, the grain bed temperature I checked it twice and read about 148 or so but I also believe my thermometer was running a little bit low because even in my boil it only read about 208. It's a short thermometer not big enough for my 9 gallon pot, one of things I need to upgrade.

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I did for vorlof 2 liters. I was fly sparging, kept about an inch or so of water above the grain bed, the grain bed temperature I checked it twice and read about 148 or so but I also believe my thermometer was running a little bit low because even in my boil it only read about 208. It's a short thermometer not big enough for my 9 gallon pot, one of things I need to upgrade.
Fly sparge on the first AG! You are brave. I never have good luck with fly sparging so I always batch sparge. Plus when batch sparging you get a chance to break up the grain bed and make sure you knock loose every little bit of sugar that's left. Try a batch sparge on the next one and see if that improves your efficiency. How long was your mash? If your temp really was 148, it usually calls for a longer mash.
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Old 04-01-2013, 07:29 PM   #6
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i just assumed fly sparging would be easier than batch which i why i went that route, i got the flow out of the tun and out of the HLT to match up pretty good...now could I have been draining from the mash tun too fast? would that effect efficiency? i'm using the 10 gallon cooler mash tun method. also when I get to the tail run of draining that mash tun i did NOT tip/tilt it to get anything right off the bottom, should I? i don't have a false bottom(yet) on the mash tun. thanks

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How long did you fly sparge for? Next time I would give batch sparging a try. Just dump in the sparge water, stir really good vorlauf and drain. I usually split the batch sparge into two, and get around 78-80%. Give it a shot. Also don't get discouraged it takes a few batches to know your equipment pretty good..

What type of manifold do you have in the MT?

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just the braid supply line right now as far as manifold...and now to make things worse i got a hydrometer to measure by SG since I had broke it Saturday and it's WAY higher, ironically the amount higher is almost the same amount I was low by pre-boil! UGH i feel like all the DME I added now has ruined the batch!

trying to stay calm and understand it takes time, just frustrating!

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is there any way now that it was been fermenting for 2 days to lower the gravity? I tested a sample I had taken before pitching, stuck in the fridge and then today let it warm up for a few hours and it came is at 1.085 est gravity on beersmith says should have been 1.064.

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Can you post your entire recipe and process?

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