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Old 01-07-2013, 04:24 AM   #1
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ok guys, I have a glass top stove that doesnt' like to boil over 4 gallons of liquid without the lid on so I've stayed away from upgrading to all grain BIAB batches till now. well now I have an extra ale pail that's not in use this time so I thought I'd try a SMaSH IPA only doing a 3 gallon batch.... thought a SMaSH IPA would be a great beginner all grain batch since I'm a tad nervous

here's what I thought I'd try and pull off

7.25 lbs of 2 row
3.5 ounces of Cascade or Centennial (depending on if my LHBS is out of stock or not on their cascade like they were last time)

BIAB method so fairly simple there. mash in at 152 degrees ish
.75 oz cascade at 60 minute mark
.50 oz cascade at 15 minute mark
1.25 oz cascade at flameout

then 1.5 oz cascade dry hop

got a crapload of S-04 sittting around that I harvested from my last batch so no real big expenditure there either...

total bill is about $14 including tax from the LHBS to try my first foray away from extract kits

I MIGHT dry hop with another 1/2 oz if you guys think it's apropriate

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For an IPA, I think dry hopping is absolutely appropriate. You may want to consider using an ounce, instead of a 1/2 ounce.

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For an IPA, I think dry hopping is absolutely appropriate. You may want to consider using an ounce, instead of a 1/2 ounce.
an ounce can easily be done. does the hopping schedule look fine (amounts, time period)??
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Well if all else fails...

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LOL, it IS harder to go overboard on hops in an IPA isn't it
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decided to up the grain bill just a tad to boost the abv to about 5.9 instead of 4.9%

7.25 lbs of 2 row
3.5 ounces of Cascade or Centennial (depending on if my LHBS is out of stock or not on their cascade like they were last time)

BIAB method so fairly simple there. mash in at 152 degrees ish
.75 oz cascade at 60 minute mark
.50 oz cascade at 15 minute mark
1.25 oz cascade at flameout

then 1.5 oz cascade dry hop

and this is for a THREE gallon batch (not a 5)

as long as no one sees anything wrong with this sucker I'll pick up the ingredients this friday

oh, and for leaving "trub" at the bottom I've seen some pics of IPA's in here where I swear a 3rd of the bucket is hop trub... is there a way to decrease that say by using whole leaf hops and letting them float etc???

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Leaf hops will be worse for trub (they sink). Use a hop bag.
I use a tsp. of Irish moss at 15.
Look up whirlpooling. That works really well when combined with a clearing agent.

Recipe looks really good! It will be extremely hoppy.

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Leaf hops will be worse for trub (they sink). Use a hop bag.
I use a tsp. of Irish moss at 15.
Look up whirlpooling. That works really well when combined with a clearing agent.

Recipe looks really good! It will be extremely hoppy.
ok, no leap hops. so I was thinking. I could use a hop bag (5 gallon paint strainer bag) to hold my boil hops and reduce trub transfer during the wort creation. and then get a little bag with marbles to sink the dry hopping hops and keep trub to minimum that way.
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Just to briefly correct your math, so you purchase the right amount, your hop bill is 4 oz, not 3.5.

I think the total amount of hops is fine, but I'd like to see you boil an ounce, maybe even 1.25 oz for 60 minutes. Keep in mind you get very little bitterness with the 15 minute addition, and almost none at flameout. Those really are aroma additions, as is the dry hop.

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Just to briefly correct your math, so you purchase the right amount, your hop bill is 4 oz, not 3.5.

I think the total amount of hops is fine, but I'd like to see you boil an ounce, maybe even 1.25 oz for 60 minutes. Keep in mind you get very little bitterness with the 15 minute addition, and almost none at flameout. Those really are aroma additions, as is the dry hop.
durr, I forgot I adjusted the dry hop amount without adjusting the 3.5 ounce "total" in my first post... so basically YES on 4 ounces

I can boost the bittering hops easily....

say....

1.25 60 min
.50 at 15 min
1 oz at flameout

1.25 oz dry hop

(unless of course you can think of a better "spread" so to speak)
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