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Old 03-17-2007, 03:20 AM   #1
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Default Extract vs All grain (green empty tasting beer)

Hey all, Ive done about 6 batches, all extract. My problem is thatmy beer always tastes green/lifeless/thin... Is this an issue of bottle conditioning time(I usually condition between 2 weeks and 2 months)? Do the extracts have more complex sugars that take longer to break down? Or should I look into all grain( I already steep)? Honestly just a bit sick of spending the time and money to homebrew and have low quality beer. I do use filtered water, could that make a diference?

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Old 03-17-2007, 03:34 AM   #2
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I'm guessing you're talking about mouthfeel.

Steeping grains have improved the mouthfeel of my beers, especially adding 4 or 8 ounces of Carapils. The one brew I did that didn't have any any steeping grains felt like water in my mouth.

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Old 03-17-2007, 05:16 AM   #3
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If you are using simple sugars and such for fermentability in your wort, it greatly reduces mouthfeel. Steeping grains with extract will improve your beers, but it depends on the style. With all-grain, the mash temperature controls body, mouthfeel, and fermentability. Maybe try partial mash, which is a mini- all grain with extract. But, you may have a certain way of tasting and feeling liquid, which will just always work against you.

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Old 03-17-2007, 05:55 AM   #4
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I have never done just an extract, butmy buddy does and his beers all taste like water to me. At the very minimum I would suggest steeping some grains. I am doing partial mashes currently because even with steeping grains I wasn't getting what I wanted from my beers.


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Old 03-17-2007, 02:51 PM   #5
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I'd go mini mash next time. AHB has some great Mini Mash Kits. While you are at it, purchase your stuff with going All Grain in mind. You can do most of it in the kitchen with the boil outside.

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Old 03-17-2007, 03:06 PM   #6
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How much beer are you ending up with at bottling time? Maybe it's as simple as using too much water?

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Steeping grains or a mini-mash will improve the overall flavor, complexity, and mouthfeel of your beer , but the simplest thing to fix "watery" beer is just to add a quarter cup of maltodextrine during the boil.

When I was doing extracts, I would steep some specialty grains AND add a tablespoon of maltodextrine.

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Fermentation temp can have an effect as well. Ferment warm 70-75 and it will be thin tasting, fermenting cool 65-70 will produce more mouthfeel.

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If you brew a high gravity extract mouthfeel should *edit* NOT be a problem. I would try brewing a little higher gravity batches. That will raise your FG and improve your mouthfeel.

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Yeah. What yeast and recipes are you usually using? Kits?

I'd go for a mini-mash of some sort. need more info to help you out.

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