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Old 11-06-2012, 05:44 PM   #31
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My 'normal' batches (6.75-7.25 gallons into primary) run in the $20-$30 range. Depends on which base malt I use more than anything (Pale Ale is less per pound that Maris Otter). I see the cost savings as a benefit of all grain brewing, on top of the product control. I always use liquid yeast (Wyeast most of the time) but buy my hops at a better per pound rate. I'm looking at freezing yeast, for use later, too. IF it works as well as I hope, I might only buy a few packs a year (to get the strain) and then just use reserved/frozen yeast for the rest.

There are ways to trim costs on batches, you just need to figure out what makes sense for you. BUT, you shouldn't pay too much for your grains.

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Old 11-06-2012, 08:42 PM   #32
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Yes, it is on my list of future improvements... Ideally I would like to grow and harvest my own hops :-)
Do that for 10 years and you'll be happy to go back to paying for them. I was.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:06 PM   #33
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Do that for 10 years and you'll be happy to go back to paying for them. I was.
Really? It only took me 2 I grow Centennial now, that's it.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:11 PM   #34
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$47 for 12 pounds of grain and a few ounces of hops is way too much and I have no idea why that would have been so much (unless you ordered online and had to pay a bunch in shipping). Boiling for over 60min doesn't really impact hop utilization at all.

There are always kinks to work out in your venturing into new territory so I wouldn't worry too much about that part...

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Old 11-06-2012, 11:32 PM   #35
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OP never came back... I think you've all been trolled.

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Old 11-07-2012, 11:02 AM   #36
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Originally Posted by bredstein

Yes, it is on my list of future improvements... Ideally I would like to grow and harvest my own hops :-)

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Do that for 10 years and you'll be happy to go back to paying for them. I was.
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Haha yes, when I can buy a pound of CTZ for around 10 bucks shipped how can I grow hops? The labor involved in growing and drying and packaging a pound of hops is substantial! Only makes sense if it's a labor of love IMHO!

Back on topic...buying malt and hops in bulk and reusing yeast the cost of the beer is nearly "too cheap to meter". 2-3 bucks a gallon for a basic 5% pale ale I'd guess. When I go out, pints are $4 - $7 dollars, so for me the beer at home is almost free.
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Old 11-07-2012, 03:13 PM   #37
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You got totally raped on that one man.. For 47 dollars I could brew a 10 gallon batch of barleywine. Try Brewmasters Warehouse if you don't have a LHBS, the prices are good, AFAIK he still does flat shipping unlike some of the others are doing now, and his crush is great so you shouldn't have to over sparge to get fair efficiency.
Plus you can have ounces or even half ounces of grains in your grain bill, you don't need to buy entire pounds of specialty malts
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Old 11-07-2012, 03:22 PM   #38
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Plus you can have ounces or even half ounces of grains in your grain bill, you don't need to buy entire pounds of specialty malts
Maybe it's just me, but when I have to buy specialty grains, I deliberately buy at least twice as much as I need for the recipe I'm working on. I figure I'm at the store already anyway, and if I like the beer I may want to make it again, or I'll likely use it in another beer at some point and I don't want to have to wait to order it online or make another trip to the LHBS, and it's only a couple bucks anyway ... so I just buy a couple pounds' worth.

Granted, I have my own grain mill at home, so the grain might not get used for a few months, but still, I figure for the extra couple of bucks, it might come in handy down the road.

Anyone else do this too?
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Depending on where I'm getting the non-base malt from I typically get at least a few pounds. I then seal it up either via a ziplock bag, or vacuum pack it (in 8-16oz bags) for use later. I'll weigh out what I need for the recipe I'll be brewing and make sure to order/get more before I run out (completely).

Having your own grain mill/crusher makes things vastly easier on brew day. Have a good scale and you no longer need to worry about the store weighing the grain wrong.

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WOW! Holy effing crap . I been taken for a wild ride . I bought the grain at my local brew store . 7.50 for 5 pounds of 2 row and 2.50 a pound for the others , so there is 25 bucks for thew grain and I still have some left over but ... forgot what the hops and yeast cost but I guess about 16 bucks since all I also bought was a 2.30 bottle of wyeast yeast energizer. guess I better check prices online next time .

hey one more thing . I made a wort chiller out of soft copper . I forgot to wash that thing off before putting it in my wort . I put it in while still boiling to sanitize it but I am wondering if any bad tastes or chemicals may come from the unwashed off copper ?

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