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Old 04-18-2009, 11:25 PM   #1
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I pulled a stout recipe from Beer Smith and bought the ingredients today. The person who created the recipe was 2nd Place for Stout, Michigan State Fair, 2005 (43.5points).

It calls for a 15.75 pound grain bill, and four of those pounds were briess aromatic malt. I did add one extra pound of 2 row, though....so 16.75 lbs. I'm told that this is a LARGE amount for a recipe....but it must have been pretty good to win 2nd.

I already picked up my ingredients, and all the grain is mixed.

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5 lbs 2 row
4 lbs aromatic malt
1.5 lbs roasted barley
1 lbs chocolate malt
1 lbs crystal 80L
1 lbs Vienna Malt
12 oz flaked barley
4 oz black patent malt
4 oz dark crystal
1 lbs lactose

How is the 4 lbs of aromatic malt going to affect the recipe?

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It adds a very large malt flavor and aroma. 25% of grist is pretty high for it, but I've never scored 43.5 so what do I know...

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It adds a very large malt flavor and aroma. 25% of grist is pretty high for it, but I've never scored 43.5 so what do I know...
No 43.5 scores here either but . . . .
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(Mildly Kilned)Used at rates of up to 10%, Aromatic malt will lend a distinct, almost exaggerated malt aroma and flavor to the finished Ales and Lagers. Aromatic malt also has a rich color and is high in diastatic power for aid in starch conversion. D/C Aromatic malt. As the name suggests, adds aromatics to a beer.
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Aromatic malt is high in diastatic power and can convert itself completely; however, because of the extremely strong aromatics it lends to the finished beer, most brewers avoid using more than 10% in a batch to maintain balance.
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Maybe the hops have something to do with being able to use so much aromatic malt....i'm still pretty new to brewing, but;

.5 oz magnum 14% for 60 min
.5 oz goldings 4.10% for 30 min
.5 oz fuggle 4.75% for 5 min
.5 oz goldigns 4.10% 5 min
.5 oz fuggle 4.75% for 0 min (commencement of boil?)
.5 oz goldings 4.10% for 0 min (commencement of boil?)

Seems like he finished strong on the hops, maybe overwhelming the aromatic malt.

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Any chance you copied it wrong?

It Smells like Coffee

Edit:
Missed the extra pound of 2-row you mentioned in the OP . . .

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.5 oz fuggle 4.75% for 0 min (commencement of boil?)
.5 oz goldings 4.10% for 0 min (commencement of boil?)
0 min is when the boil is over. ie: when you shut off the burner. flameout.
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0 min is when the boil is over. ie: when you shut off the burner. flameout.
so, how long do I leave those hops in at that point?

AnOldUR; maybe someone figured out how to use more that 10% aromatic malt....I guess we'll see when this brew is done.

I added the extra pound of 2-row because the recipe maker had 82% efficiency. I might get 70%. Man, I need to get my own grain mill. I batch sparge and I got like 64% efficiency on my last brew day. Hit my temps on the dot. Unacceptable. Off subject, but what % point increase can you expect from fly sparging as apposed to batch sparging?

This is also not a cheap recipe to make. Close to fifty bucks. The UK Goldings were close to $4/oz.
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Fred's Beer Style Page

The guy who made that beer is no joke!
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Midwest says up to 50% on their Aromatic, so I guess I was wrong.

You just chuck them in when you take the kettle off the heat. I don't use a hops bag, so they (and other hops) end up in my strainer as I pour into primary. Some people don't bother with that.

Fred didn't win all those. Fred compiled them.

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Oh....lol.

And as for the 10% on the aromatic, i've seen the same thing.....the workers at the brewshop even commented that four pounds was a ton. I ignored them and trusted the 43.5 score.

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