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Old 01-02-2013, 03:37 AM   #11
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Once you hit your temp, there's no reason to stir unless you're getting temperature stratification. The more you stir the more heat you are going to lose.


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Isohoppy... haven't delved into the pH stuff yet... Seems a bit overwhelming to me at this point but mostly due to my lack of studying the topic. I get my water from the safeway refill station thing. Uses reverse osmosis, ultra violet lights, and 2 stage carbon filtration... the beer always comes delicious so I trust that part.


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BBL_Brewer... thanks for chiming in and confirming.
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Stirring can't hurt anything if you can maintain temps. Commercial breweries stir continuously.
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Does it help increase efficiency for a 5 gal batch though?
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Isohoppy... haven't delved into the pH stuff yet... Seems a bit overwhelming to me at this point but mostly due to my lack of studying the topic. I get my water from the safeway refill station thing. Uses reverse osmosis, ultra violet lights, and 2 stage carbon filtration... the beer always comes delicious so I trust that part.
If you were using RO water with the grainbill you mentioned earlier, a check with BrunWater indicates you're likely hitting a decent mash pH of 5.5 because of the crystal malt addition. Nothing big to worry about compared to people way out of the ballpark.

There is some indication that increasing calcium improves mash efficiency somewhat (and could even lower your mash pH some more to 5.4). You could try a small addition of calcium chloride or gypsum; the calcium can also help with hot break formation and yeast health.

In all, I don't feel like pH is your problem.
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You might want to buy a feeler gauge that's used to gap spark plugs and set you mill to .030. Before you buy a new mill.
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The feeler guage idea is pretty awesome! I will give that a shot. Overall I will have to get a new or used mill because I am borrowing the one I'm using currently... Are there any decent ones for around 50-100 bucks? I'd like to avoid spending 200 on a mill... at that price I might as well just crush at the LHBS as it wont offset the savings from buying bulk grains...
Also, thanks for the info on the mash pH. That was helpful and reassuring. I have some gypsum hanging around so I will add some next brew day and see if it affects anything.
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Acidrain, Do you stir every 15 mins while mashing? I was under the impression that I am not supposed to stir once I've doughed in as to not disturb the grain bed... Sounds like I need to rethink some.of my technique... I haven't done a batch sparge but maybe I should go that route and see if I get better results.
Yes, I check the temp and stir every 15 minutes.
Also, I recently moved away from spring water and started using RO water with calcium chloride and gypsum additions (which seamed to help by a few points).
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Read Kai's efficiency article (braukaiser.com). By taking a hydrometer or refractometer reading of the mash in the MLT you will know before you even start to sparge what your extraction efficiency is. With a .035in crush using a cooler/RIMs I'm consistently in the mid-90's at this point. Any loss of efficiency afterward is due to lautering/deadspace/system loss (hoses, pumps, etc.).

As an example, a 1.53qt/pound ratio has a maximum yield of about 1.080 (19.4P). You should be able to get 90-95% or more of that (1.072-1.080)


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