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Yooper 01-18-2007 12:06 AM

Dumb grains questions
 
Since I live in the middle of nowhere, I'd like to buy grains and store them. I don't have my own mill- so, can I freeze crushed grains and use in 3 months or so? I'd have to crush them at the LHBS (3 hours each way) and then keep them until I need them. It would save time and money, if I could.

Lorena

aseelye 01-18-2007 12:18 AM

Similar question here, how long can uncrushed grains stay fresh for (If kept in a cool dark place, 5 gal bucket perhaps in the closet.

Mikey 01-18-2007 12:54 AM

The search engine is your friend, this question gets asked at least 1-2 times a month.:mug:

EdWort 01-18-2007 12:59 AM

"Crushed grain will stay fresh for about two weeks if kept cool and dry."

John Palmer, How to Brew

Yooper 01-18-2007 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikey
The search engine is your friend, this question gets asked at least 1-2 times a month.:mug:

Really? When I did a search for grains and storage, there was NOTHING about keeping crushed grains in the freezer, or storing for a length of time after they've been crushed. I only went back to Feb. 06 though, so maybe I missed it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdWort
"Crushed grain will stay fresh for about two weeks if kept cool and dry."

John Palmer, How to Brew

That's what I was thinking- a few weeks max. But maybe in the freezer, it could last a bit longer? I would hate to either order online and pay shipping each time I brew, or worse, drive 300 miles roundtrip to pick them up. My basement is just too damp to keep them- that's why I was thinking the freezer with the hops.



Lorena

ajf 01-18-2007 02:03 AM

From http://www.northcountrymalt.com

"Malt Storage
All grain suppliers do their utmost to provide a product that is insect free. However, once the product leaves their plant or warehouse, it is beyond their control. We recommend the following preventive measures:

Inspect the malt area at regularly scheduled intervals. This is of particular importance when the room temperature is above 64° F.
Malt should be stored in a clean, cool, dry area.
To reduce the likelihood of insect activity, you may choose to fumigate periodically.
For best results, we recommend using all milled products within 3 months and all whole kernel products within 6 months of receipt. "

I'm not going to say if it's right or wrong because I really don't know. I only buy whole grain, and it all gets used in less than 6 months.

What I will say, is that I buy my base malt (Maris Otter) at $35.00 for 55 lbs and grind it myself. (64c per pound). If I buy it by the pound it costs me about $1.60 per lb.
As I average about 4 lbs per week this results in a weekly savings of $3.84.
I bought my malt mill on sale for about $80.00 plus tax. By my calculations it had paid for itself within 5 months. Your mileage may vary.

I do have a Corona lookalike mill gathering dust in the basement that I will never use again. If anybody wants it, send me a PM or rmail with your address, and I'll mail it to you. If you are happy with it, you can refund the shipping costs. If not, try and find it a good home somewhere else. I've made this offer to someone before, but they never bothered to respond.

-a.

Edit: The mill has now gone.

EdWort 01-18-2007 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lorenae
That's what I was thinking- a few weeks max. But maybe in the freezer, it could last a bit longer?

Sounds like a neat experiment. Put some crushed grains in a food saver bag, vacume pack it, freeze it for 3 months and then brew a batch. See what happens.

RichBrewer 01-18-2007 02:21 AM

lorenae,
I think that if you have a vacuum sealer like a food saver, You could store grains in the freezer for quite some time. (I'm thinking at least a year.) If not, get as much air out of the bag as possible and maybe even double bag the grains before freezing.
You know what you might think about doing is buying in bulk and then purchase a decent grain mill. The savings on grain would eventually offset the cost of the mill. Just a thought. :mug:

Yooper 01-18-2007 11:47 AM

Thanks for all the hints- I appreciate it. I'm going to figure out what I'm going to brew the next three times or so, and order it all at once. I don't really have a "cool, dry" place but I can stick the ingredients for the last batch in the freezer and see what happens.

Lorena

Mikey 01-18-2007 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdWort
Sounds like a neat experiment. Put some crushed grains in a food saver bag, vacume pack it, freeze it for 3 months and then brew a batch. See what happens.

One of the many times this question was asked, a respondent stated that he had used grains that were several YEARS old and had noticed no variations from brewing another batch with freshly crushed grains.

In the same post, another person suggested that pre-crushed would be good for a year or so

The idea that they would go stale in two weeks is a little over the top.

I'll see if I can find the thread.


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