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reinstone 02-03-2013 03:42 AM

Do you think the professional breweries tell the truth
 
I know there are a ton of books out there from professional breweries etc. do you all think they tell the truth on recipes etc.? I know there are trade secrets but some of it seems to be too forthcoming.

PhelanKA7 02-03-2013 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by reinstone (Post 4858655)
I know there are a ton of books out there from professional breweries etc. do you all think they tell the truth on recipes etc.? I know there are trade secrets but some of it seems to be too forthcoming.

Anyone can brew any beer but not everyone can brew any beer at any time.

reinstone 02-03-2013 04:48 AM

Cryptic......I like it!!!!!

ArcaneXor 02-03-2013 05:07 AM

From someone who has some pro-am experience... the recipe changes (slightly) every time you get in a new batch of ingredients. Lots of variables to adjust for to keep the product consistent.

So breweries who publish their recipes are publishing a snapshot in time. There is much more to a beer than a list of ingredients. So they have little to lose in publishing recipes.

Qhrumphf 02-03-2013 05:29 AM

Give two brewers the exact same recipe and have them brew it. They're not going to be identical beers. Brewing is only partially recipe, the rest is process. There's a reason why every time a pro brewer changes equipment configuration, either the recipe or the process has to change slightly to get the same beer. Boil strength, boil volume, kettle design, fermenter design, batch size, all of these things have an impact on flavor. So they have no reason to hide their recipes.

kallen 02-03-2013 06:20 AM

Your big macro level breweries blend batches to match particular flavor profiles.

Smaller micro and local breweries don't have the storage capacity to do this. So there can be nuance differences from batch to batch. Which to me is the beauty and art of brewing beer. Every time it is going to be slightly different. And the difference between a brewer, and a great brewer is their ability to match and repeat the same beer over and over again.

Piratwolf 02-03-2013 01:05 PM

Let's face it, most home brewers (including me) have had trouble doing a kit correctly. If that wasn't true, 2/3 of the threads here on HBT wouldn't exist. So I'm pretty sure that the pros have little fear that we're going to cut into their profit share. If you listen to CYBI, you'll hear JZ and Tasty say the recipes are legit and there are many pros who are very supportive of the home brew community b/c they know we buy and spread the word about their beers. I have, however, heard some brewers protect certain processes or techniques that are cutting edge, and I have no problem with that.

BreezyBrew 02-03-2013 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ArcaneXor (Post 4858892)
From someone who has some pro-am experience... the recipe changes (slightly) every time you get in a new batch of ingredients. Lots of variables to adjust for to keep the product consistent.

So breweries who publish their recipes are publishing a snapshot in time. There is much more to a beer than a list of ingredients. So they have little to lose in publishing recipes.

^ This. I know the recipe for Rogue Dead Guy on their website has malt variety that hasn't existed for years.

In my mind, the one thing that pro brewers seem to keep a secret is the water profiles. I'd guess everything else is fairly accurate.

GrogNerd 02-03-2013 01:27 PM

Starr Hill is tight-lipped about their recipes

reasoning is that we wouldn't appreciate it/it wouldn't be as satisfying if we didn't work it out ourselves

alane1 02-03-2013 01:34 PM

why would it matter to the big guys, even if you made the same brew comercialy why would you want to make the same exact beer as someone else.Kind of unoriginal if you ask me.


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