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FSR402 06-02-2008 12:49 AM

Danstar Munich VS Fermentis WB-06 (Happy Wife Wheat)
 
With all the mixed reviews (most being not very good) and that I was able to get some of the new Danstar Munich dry wheat yeast even though Danstar said that it was not out yet. I wanted to try these both out head to head.
The wife has been wanting a light summer wheat beer so I figured that this would be a great way to put them against each other.

Here was the brew.

Happy Wife Wheat
American Wheat or Rye Beer


Type: All Grain
Date: 5/31/2008
Batch Size: 12.00 gal
Brewer: Part Time Brewery
Boil Size: 14.37 gal Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 75 min Equipment: Brew Pot (15 Gal) and Igloo Cooler (20 Gal)
Brewhouse Efficiency: 77.00


Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
9 lbs Pale Malt (6 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 50.00 %
9 lbs Wheat - Red Malt (Briess) (2.3 SRM) Grain 50.00 %
2.00 oz Perle pellets [5.70 %] (75 min) Hops 19.5 IBU
0.50 oz Perle pellets [5.70 %] (45 min) Hops 4.3 IBU
2.00 oz Orange Peel, Sweet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs Wheat yeast (DCL Yeast #WB-06) Yeast-Ale
1 Pkgs Wheat yeast (Danstar Munich ) Yeast-Ale


Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.042 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.040 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.012 SG
Measured Final Gravity:
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 3.85 %
Actual Alcohol by Vol:
Bitterness: 23.7 IBU Calories: 177 cal/pint
Est Color: 3.3 SRM Color: Color


Mash Profile

Mash Name: Double Infusion, Light Body
Total Grain Weight: 18.00 lb
Grain Temperature: 72.0 F
TunTemperature: 100.0 F
Adjust Temp for Equipment: TRUE Mash PH: 5.2 PH

Double Infusion, Light Body Step Time Name Description Step Temp
30 min Protein Rest Add 16.20 qt of water at 136.1 F 122.0 F
45 min Saccrification Add 14.40 qt of water at 197.4 F 150.0 F
10 min Mash Out Add 16.92 qt of water at 211.7 F 168.0 F
Sparge Water: 4.65 gal
Sparge Temperature: 168.0 F



After all was said and done I split it up into two 6.5 gal carboys and one I added the Danstar Munich and the other I added the Fermentis WB-06.
It was about 8pm when I finished and then my old man and I sat around until 11 drinking. I had to tell him to leave when he got up to pull another draft and had to hold onto my car on the way to the kezzer. lol
I then stuck the carboys into the back bathroom because I was drunk and did not want to carry these things down stairs to the fermenting room.
This morning now 8 hours later the Fermentis WB-06 brew was gassing off strong but the Danstar Munich was not doing jack.
I then brought them down to the fermenting room and went out for the day. It's now 24 hours after pitching and the Danstar Munich is blowing away the Fermentis WB-06.
Here is the brews, Fermentis WB-06 on the right and Danstar Munich on the left. The Danstar Munich may have taken longer to get going but is fermenting much more vigorous now. I may need to add a blow-off tube before I go to bed.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-...R-MVC-737F.JPG

Both are sitting right at 70*F. Once the fermentaion slows I'll drop it to 65* for two weeks. Then I will most likely keg, carb and drink.
I will update this as it goes. :tank:

FSR402 06-02-2008 02:01 AM

One hour later the Danstar has pushed the foam up to the airlock. Not into it, but up to it. So I have added the blow-off tube. The Fermentis has not changed.:mug:
Night all....

yelloww 06-03-2008 11:17 AM

I'm very interested to know more about those two yeasts. Please keep us in the loop..

thanks for doing such an experimentation

Yel

Tonedef131 06-03-2008 05:18 PM

I am really glad someone is doing this experiment, I was planning to soon if something didn't pop up. I anticipate updates.

EdWort 06-03-2008 05:34 PM

Where did you get it and how much was it? I am interested in how it compares to Weihenstephan 3068.

FSR402 06-03-2008 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdWort (Post 700149)
Where did you get it and how much was it? I am interested in how it compares to Weihenstephan 3068.

I assume you are asking about the Danstar. I got it from my LHBS and I "think" it was like $2.50 for an 11.5 g pack. I don't remember exactly because I always buy a bunch of stuff at the same time.

But as far as Danstar says, my LHBS does not have it and when I got it back in April Danstar said that no one has it yet.


As far as an update goes...

I pulled the blow-off tube last night and replaced the cap and airlock. I normaly leave the blow-off until done but I wanted to clean it before it dried out and I just throw it out.
The Danstar was not foaming up anymore and the the bubbles slowed down to one per 30 sec. The Fermentis was still gassing off as fast as it was but the foam had dropped some.
So far I would say that the Danstar foams more, takes a little longer to get started but goes faster once it does.

mew 06-03-2008 07:48 PM

I'm interested to see updates. Faster is not always better.

FSR402 06-03-2008 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mew (Post 700389)
I'm interested to see updates. Faster is not always better.

This is true. But going by it's a wheat beer yeast the Danstar so far is acting the same as the WLP300 I use on all my heff's where as the Fermentis is not.

EdWort 06-09-2008 03:52 PM

Austin Home Brew has the Danstar Munich for $2.99 a packet.

http://www.austinhomebrew.com/index.php?cPath=178_21_77_157_402

Desert_Sky 06-09-2008 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdWort (Post 707084)
Austin Home Brew has the Danstar Munich for $2.99 a packet.

http://www.austinhomebrew.com/index.php?cPath=178_21_77_157_402

Quote:

Recommended fermentation temperature range is 55-66 F
wow, pretty low fermenting temps for a wheat beer. I normally ferment mine at 66-68 and thought that was on the lower side of the temp range for the strains


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