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Old 04-19-2007, 08:06 AM   #11
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Way too much in adjunts as uwmgdman said. Try keeping your adjunts to 10% or thereabouts.
mashing at 154 would increase your mouthfeel. If you want the sweetness then just go with a higher crystal L rating and lower the amount you want.

ok,,,,what about

12# 2-row
0.75# Crystal 20L
0.75# Carapils

I need more body than in my original, and need more head retention b/c I am adding lemon and grapefruit zest which I read kill head retention.
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:25 AM   #12
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I would suggest cutting your crystals in half and cutting 2 lbs of your 2 row at the same time ADDING 4lbs of munich malt to make up the missing 2lbs of 2row and 2lbs of crystal. Munich malt is groovy baby. Adds kick @$$ maltiness! My next IPA I'm going with 2lbs crystal 40 1/2 lbs each of carafoam and melanoidin and 10 lbs munich and 5 lbs of maris otter. Munich malt is a mashing grain that has enough enzymes to convert itself while there will be 3 lbs of specialty grains I figured I'd throw in 5lbs of 2 row to make sure there was enough enzymes to convert all the starches and the enzymes wouldn't get tied up lazing around the steeping grains. And what 2-row malt is better than maris otter? (personal opinion of course. ) I'm going to also use Simcoe, Sorachi Ace AND Cascade hops with american ale 2 (can't remember the number) from WYeast. Anyhow I meant to toss in my 2 cents and ya got about a buck fifty. My apologies, I've just been thinking about this next batch for awhile now. hehehe. (actually I think this one lands more in the barleywine category... oops...)

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Old 04-19-2007, 01:53 PM   #13
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ok,,,,what about

12# 2-row
0.75# Crystal 20L
0.75# Carapils

I need more body than in my original, and need more head retention b/c I am adding lemon and grapefruit zest which I read kill head retention.

I think that sounds reasonable. I never have added citrus zest to a beer, but I can imagine how it would kill head retention, essential oils and all. Good luck!
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Also, not including the crystal in the full mash is inviting high mash Ph, and thus very poor efficiency. I definitely do not recommend this, unless you have unusually low Ph water.

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Old 04-20-2007, 01:16 AM   #15
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I would suggest cutting your crystals in half and cutting 2 lbs of your 2 row at the same time ADDING 4lbs of munich malt to make up the missing 2lbs of 2row and 2lbs of crystal. Munich malt is groovy baby. Adds kick @$$ maltiness!)
Gotta love the Munich. It seems to balance out a lot of hop bitterness in some of my recipies, gives a malty flavor and perceived body.
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I love Munich, too. My best beer ever was an IPA with three pounds (and not much crystal, a small amount of something low, maybe a half pound). If you're concerned about head retention, toss a half pound of wheat malt into the mix.

EDIT: Half pound of Crystal 10L, half pound of crystal 40L, the Munich, half a pound of wheat malt.

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Old 04-21-2007, 05:33 PM   #17
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ok, final recipe, going to the LHBS

6# Marris Otter
6# Munich
0.75# Crystal 20L
0.75# Carapils

hop additions to be worked out soon.

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